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Old 03-26-2024, 10:00 AM
 
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Is “whitewashed” a racist term?
How about when you get your teeth “whitened”?
Or “white water” rafting?
“White lightening”
“White hot”
“White noise”
Shall I continue?
No. Words nor inanimate objects can be racist. Racism requires some cognitive ability.
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Old 03-26-2024, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Is that the same as shanghai?
Never heard of blackbird in that context.

How is slavery racist?
No, it is not. People were Shanghaied to work as crew on a ship.

Did you read the link? Your not having heard of it does not mean it did not happen.

Do you really have to ask your last question?

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My previous point was that one can probably find some negative connotation with a significant part of our vocabulary, so the whole exercise seems rather non-productive.
I agree. I was addressing the statement that blackbird could not have a negative connotation. With regard to slavery, it does.
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Old 03-26-2024, 12:11 PM
 
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No, it is not. People were Shanghaied to work as crew on a ship.

Did you read the link? Your not having heard of it does not mean it did not happen.

Do you really have to ask your last question?
Wow, really hit a nerve.
Shanghaid also evolved to mean people being kidnapped or tricked to work against their will for little or no compensation on a ship or foreign land.

Yes I did read the link.

Blackbirding is the coercion of people through deception or kidnapping to work as slaves or poorly paid labourers in countries distant from their native land.

Does it matter if they were forced to work on a ship or on a sugar plantation?
Common themes; coercion, kidnapped, trickery, deception, force, poorly paid.
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Old 03-26-2024, 01:30 PM
 
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I think you missed the part about words that have negative connotations. Hence why "blackballed" would certainly make this list, but "blackbird" would not.
"Blackbird"(or any word) remains off the list only as long as someone doesn't say that it has negative connotations. And someone's definition of negative connotations can change at any time. With Blackbird, they just haven't gotten around to it as you can find many references to it and slavery.

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That said, I'm a firm believer that this fixation on the history of words is nonsensical, since:


A) if you go back far enough, you could probably exclude half the words in the english language due to some type of "undesirable" origination
I'd probably say closer to 75%.

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B) why is it that some words can be "warped" to mean something new in today's view, can't we just treat these other words in the same way, after all, how many folks today even know what the actual history of the word "cakewalk", to the vast majority of folks, it just simply means something that's easy.
Look at who is doing this and why they are doing it and you will have your answer. They want to control the language. Once they control language other types of control become easier.
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Old 03-27-2024, 11:01 AM
 
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"Blackbird"(or any word) remains off the list only as long as someone doesn't say that it has negative connotations. And someone's definition of negative connotations can change at any time. With Blackbird, they just haven't gotten around to it as you can find many references to it and slavery.



I'd probably say closer to 75%.



Look at who is doing this and why they are doing it and you will have your answer. They want to control the language. Once they control language other types of control become easier.
The lunacy of the Woke is boundless. Soon enough we'll likely hear an argument from some DEI PhD holder that all languages originating in Europe are both settler-colonialist and embodied Whiteness, and as a consequence should be phased out of usage in deference to the proliferation of native tribal languages and Arabic.
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