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And they wouldn't be there to hide behind if ANY other country in the region would agree to take Palestinian refugees, but NONE will, not even temporarily. No one wants them. Wonder why is that? And still people try to put all the onus on Israel.
Because they know Israel won't let them back in. Why doesn't Israel settle civilians in refugee camps on their own territory?
Innocent Israelis were butchered on 10/6 by terrorists. What would the appropriate response to such a disgusting attack be? Let's not forget the 20 years America spent in the ME after the attack on 9/11. How many people were killed in that time? Were they all terrorist combatants?
In WW2 when we carpet bombed cities on our way to conquer the evil of Hitler there were many civilians that were killed. How about when we dropped the Nuclear bombs on Japan?
Vietnam is another mess.
I don't think we have the high ground to criticize Israel and what can really be done when the Hamas Terrorists use Civilians and Hospitals as shields?
Israel didn't start this war but they sure have the means to finish it.
You make some good points, although I wouldn't bring up our wars in the ME as an example. That was a stupid mistake by Bush, etal; invading Iraq which had nothing to do with 911. Vietnam also not a good example.
But I myself have thought about WWII. As terrible it was to drop the atomic bombs on Japan, those deaths are the fault of the Japanese government, who started the war and refused to surrender when beaten. Likewise, civilian deaths in Gaza are the fault of Hamas.
Per OP question - because the entire world believes in the meaningless, ridiculous concept of "proportional response." The world thinks that they get to tell the stronger side in any conflict how much force they are allowed to use upon an opponent, and when they are ignored, they get all crabby and root for the losing side.
Hamas killed/kidnapped a bunch of Israelis and had Israel done a single counterattack where they killed a few dozen token bad guys, nobody cares. That would have been what people consider proportionally valid.
Israel got poked one too many times and said let's deal with this once and for all. They have now done what people think is worse than what happened to them, so now they are the bad guy and their attackers became the good guys.
You see this thinking at every level of conflict all across the world. If a bully attacks you and you escape, maybe get in one counter punch, whatever, you are the hero of the story. If you surprise your bully with a superior skill in dispensing violence and put a properly savage beating on them, you go from hero to bad guy because wait a sec, just because the bully attacked you doesn't mean the bully needed to get their arse kicked. You could have just backed them off and not been so mean about it.
Somebody wrongs you in court, and does so with malice. You fight back and get back what was taken or compensated for that specific injury? Cool, you are the hero. But if you crush that person in a counter suit because they wronged you, now you are the villain.
Burglar breaks in and you scare them off? Cool, hero. Put three in their center of mass as a prize for trying to violate your rights? Not cool, villain.
Etc etc.
Israel is just a national example.
With respect, the world only cares about the meaningless ridiculous concept of proportional response, when ISRAEL is the responder.
No one cares when Azerbaijan kills Armenian kids, or when Muslim Sudanese kill Chirstian Sudanese kids or when Tootsie and Hooties kill each others kids. or when..........
Just when Israel responds to THIER kids being killed.
With respect, the world only cares about the meaningless ridiculous concept of proportional response, when ISRAEL is the responder.
No one cares when Azerbaijan kills Armenian kids, or when Muslim Sudanese kill Chirstian Sudanese kids or when Tootsie and Hooties kill each others kids. or when..........
Just when Israel responds to THIER kids being killed.
Isn't the US constantly complaining about Uyghurs and Ukraine?
More children have been killed in Gaza than in Ukraine, Sudan, Azerbaijan combined. Let that sink in.
With respect, the world only cares about the meaningless ridiculous concept of proportional response, when ISRAEL is the responder.
No one cares when Azerbaijan kills Armenian kids, or when Muslim Sudanese kill Chirstian Sudanese kids or when Tootsie and Hooties kill each others kids. or when..........
Just when Israel responds to THIER kids being killed.
Nor do they care about the Palestinians killed in Syria, as well as Yemeni's. Funny no protests till it's Israel, it is NP for them to be killed by others than Israel.
It’s like they pretend not to know that the attack was on Israel last Oct. If that never happened it wouldn’t have escalated to this. Why doesn’t more of the media, Hollywood etc talk about the innocent Israelis that were targeted? They go on about the innocent Palestinian people. Which of course is sad and we don’t want them to be killed either but the media acts as if Israel are the evil entity. Israel gives warnings. Time to get out. They don’t target innocent civilians. Hamas does. Do people not realize the difference?
If these people had to pay attention to both sides, they'd have nothing to say about Israel. That would result in their not talking at all.
Gee, that would be terrible, wouldn't it?
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