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Old 03-27-2024, 09:05 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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What is "wu flu"? I've never heard of it.

The reason for the US seeing cases of eradicated diseases is anti vaxxers traveling to places that aren't as good at vaccination or can't really afford vaccination.
No mention of the 10+ million third world "newcomers" ?

It's all Americans that didn't get their shots.
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Old 03-27-2024, 09:09 AM
 
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Our President told 350 million Americans if you get the Covid shot, you won't get Covid.

That was patently untrue. Why would expect people to trust the government about Covid anymore?
The president before the current one said covid would magically disappear, probably by spring/summer of 2020, that it was very well contained with only 15 cases in spring 2020, and there'd be a big, beautiful vaccine quickly.

Only the vaccine part was true, the other things said were patently untrue.

Never take medical advice from a politician who has no medical background, training, or licensure. Always discuss *your health and your best options* with your doctor or care team.
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Old 03-27-2024, 09:15 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The president before the current one said covid would magically disappear, probably by spring/summer of 2020, that it was very well contained with only 15 cases in spring 2020, and there'd be a big, beautiful vaccine quickly.

Only the vaccine part was true, the other things said were patently untrue.

Never take medical advice from a politician who has no medical background, training, or licensure. Always discuss *your health and your best options* with your doctor or care team.
Well many can't even get ahold of their doctors and ended up with the people in the drug store.
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Old 03-27-2024, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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As for censorship of information on topics such as this, that would be an emphatic NO.

Regarding the measles outbreak, I've not looked into it but it seems pretty obvious that the most likely source is the flood of illegal aliens which has been pouring into our country for the past few years. Blaming "anti vaxxers," especially without first addressing the elephant in the room, is lazy and reeks of political motivation.
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Old 03-27-2024, 09:27 AM
 
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Authors Benjamin D. Hoffman and Jesse M. Ehrenfeld should look in the mirror.
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Old 03-27-2024, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Anti-Vaxers are targeting the COVID-19 nonVaxes. CDC had to change the definition for a vaccine to be able to rename the treatments as vaccines. These nonVaxes do not provide immunity. In fact there is little clinical evidence that they ever were effective, since COVID-19 is a novel virus. When fabrications and lies are the basis, one has grounds to be suspicious.

CDC changed the definition for a VACCINE
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...254111268.html
CDC changed the definition.
Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

The term “vaccine” also got a makeover. The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
. . . .
In short, “new” vaccines do not provide immunity, but may only help alleviate symptoms (like the cytokine storm).
The latest mutations of COVID are still circulating, despite (not a)Vaccination.

Who decided these treatments were even effective?
MODERNA VACCINE
https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download
The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is a vaccine and may prevent you from getting COVID-19.
HAS THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE BEEN USED BEFORE?
The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine. In clinical trials, approximately 15,400 individuals 18 years of age and older have received at least 1 dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine.
: : : : :
Translation : Moderna is an unapproved vaccine. Trials are ongoing. No conclusive data.


YOU DARE NOT OBJECT TO BEING TREATED WITH AN UNAPPROVED UNVAX!
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Old 03-27-2024, 09:51 AM
 
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"Our constitutional tradition stands against the idea that we need Oceania’s Ministry of Truth. See G. Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949) (Centennial ed. 2003)"

"Were the Court to hold that the interest in truthful discourse alone is sufficient to sustain a ban on speech, absent any evidence that the speech was used to gain a material advantage, it would give government a broad censorial power unprecedented in this Court’s cases or in our constitutional tradition."

"The First Amendment itself ensures the right to respond to speech we do not like, and for good reason. Freedom of speech and thought flows not from the beneficence of the state but from the inalienable rights of the person. And suppression of speech by the government can make exposure of falsity more difficult, not less so. Society has the right and civic duty to engage in open, dynamic, rational discourse. These ends are not well served when the government seeks to orchestrate public discussion through content-based mandates."

U.S. v. Alvarez, 567, U.S. 709 (2012) - U.S. Supreme Court opinion
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Old 03-27-2024, 10:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Anti-Vaxers are targeting the COVID-19 nonVaxes. CDC had to change the definition for a vaccine to be able to rename the treatments as vaccines. These nonVaxes do not provide immunity. In fact there is little clinical evidence that they ever were effective, since COVID-19 is a novel virus. When fabrications and lies are the basis, one has grounds to be suspicious.

CDC changed the definition for a VACCINE
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...254111268.html
CDC changed the definition.
Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

The term “vaccine” also got a makeover. The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
. . . .
In short, “new” vaccines do not provide immunity, but may only help alleviate symptoms (like the cytokine storm).
The latest mutations of COVID are still circulating, despite (not a)Vaccination.

Who decided these treatments were even effective?
MODERNA VACCINE
https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download
The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is a vaccine and may prevent you from getting COVID-19.
HAS THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE BEEN USED BEFORE?
The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine. In clinical trials, approximately 15,400 individuals 18 years of age and older have received at least 1 dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine.
: : : : :
Translation : Moderna is an unapproved vaccine. Trials are ongoing. No conclusive data.


YOU DARE NOT OBJECT TO BEING TREATED WITH AN UNAPPROVED UNVAX!
It's the worlds larges clinical trial in history with 100's of millions of people enrolled. It's still ongoing.
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Old 03-27-2024, 10:48 AM
 
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It's the worlds larges clinical trial in history with 100's of millions of people enrolled. It's still ongoing.
Volunteered guinea pigs.

I used to work at a bunch of bio-labs for experimented-upon mammals.

The females working there were called ma-am(s).

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