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Old 04-04-2024, 03:56 PM
 
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Almost makes you regret all the false information that was unleashed on the public back in 2006 or so about how presidents (and their "oil buddies") control oil and gas prices and gouge people.

Ironically, that was also back when all of the "stealing elections with Diebold\Dominion machines" started too.

Fast forward to today and voila...one parties discarded conspiracy...is another parties new found fact-book.

And yes, most certainly both parties do it and the next time a Repub is president and gas prices go up...it will reverse again with one side blaming and the other saying no.
Diebold was really good at sucking up to the party in control of buying the voting machines. They were nowhere near clever in hiding their political contributions to the party in charge.
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Old 04-04-2024, 04:34 PM
 
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Every thing I've seen on the LNG pause says that currently operating terminals can continue to export LNG. Do you have a link to something that says all LNG exports are paused and that no tankers are allowed to load?
Sigh — I didn’t say “all”, I specifically mentioned Trade Agreements ( which gives the White House dandy excuse). It’s also about the Green New Deal, according to the White House Statement on this “pause”.
It mostly about 2024 being an Election Year

The latest article is from Reuters on April 2, 2024. The “pause” is now an Economic Bargaining Chip.

White House open to ending LNG export pause in push for Ukraine aid, sources say

WASHINGTON, April 2 (Reuters) - U.S. officials are open to ending President Joe Biden's pause on approvals of liquefied natural gas exports to get a Ukraine aide package passed in Congress but want to wait to see the entire proposal before making any decisions, two White House sources said on Tuesday.

Biden, a Democrat, in late January had paused approvals for pending and future applications to export the supercooled fuel after protests about the booming industry from activists concerned about its impact on climate change.


It’s all about the Loud Voices of the Activists and the Election Year. Period

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Old 04-04-2024, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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There's nothing wrong with current pump prices. They are at a level that helps sustain US production. If gas prices drop to $2.50 or less, US production will drop by 20%. Oil companies are not going to lose money to keep pump prices low.
They did so during most of the Trump Presidency. Trump's gas/energy prices were much lower than Biden's.

Joe's puppetmasters are like the Keystone Cops on energy...laughably bad.

So, is Joe ever going to replenis our reserves that he wasted?
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Old 04-04-2024, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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So you object to the US being a Net Exporter of oil and all these actions have been done to cause the price to rise???? Oil prices are a world market and we don't control it, our output affects it, but we don't get to pick the number.

Trump never did anything that affected the world price as I already posted, should we lock down the world again so your gas price drops? If we do US production will start to shut down again because they are not going to operate at a loss, just as they won't take a lower price for the sake of you getting a lower price at the pump.

The only "greed for power & wealth" is in your mind and the conspiracy theory book because the US oil production is at a record high. America can only decide her energy policy , not the worlds and no matter how high you thinks our pump prices are those in Europe are paying far more.
So, why is Joe Biden killing Mother Earth with all these fossil fuels he's producing all the sudden?

Why is Joe blowing holes in the ozone layer with oil, when he could be using more natural gas instead?

Where are the tree huggers? Where are the climate change wack jobs? Al Gore's been quiet as a Church Mouse...since he quit.

Is it okay if Biden maxes out oil production, but its not when Trump does it? Is that the Libs stance?

Joe Biden has American blood from murderous illegals, and oil from record outputs, on his hands...but he hasn't fallen down in a while.
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Old 04-04-2024, 06:00 PM
 
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Every thing I've seen on the LNG pause says that currently operating terminals can continue to export LNG. Do you have a link to something that says all LNG exports are paused and that no tankers are allowed to load?

Geez...that was too easy. Here's precisely what you asked for, right from Joe's desk:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...authorizations.

Joe also paused natural gas pipelines here in the u.s..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-oil-pipeline

Joe also halted the Keystone XL pipeline:

https://energycommerce.house.gov/pos...can-refineries

But suddenly, Joe did a 180 & the USA is pumping the Mother load of oil out of the ground, thus killing Mother Earth, melting ice, killing Polar Bears, raising the oceans, & global temps...why?

Where is the outrage from the Climate Change Activists? Where's Al Gore?


Where's all the oil going? Why can't Joe replenish our national strategic reserves, since he's pumping record levels?
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Old 04-04-2024, 06:50 PM
 
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Sigh — I didn’t say “all”, I specifically mentioned Trade Agreements ( which gives the White House dandy excuse). It’s also about the Green New Deal, according to the White House Statement on this “pause”.
It mostly about 2024 being an Election Year

The latest article is from Reuters on April 2, 2024. The “pause” is now an Economic Bargaining Chip.

White House open to ending LNG export pause in push for Ukraine aid, sources say

WASHINGTON, April 2 (Reuters) - U.S. officials are open to ending President Joe Biden's pause on approvals of liquefied natural gas exports to get a Ukraine aide package passed in Congress but want to wait to see the entire proposal before making any decisions, two White House sources said on Tuesday.

Biden, a Democrat, in late January had paused approvals for pending and future applications to export the supercooled fuel after protests about the booming industry from activists concerned about its impact on climate change.


It’s all about the Loud Voices of the Activists and the Election Year. Period
From this site https://www.energy.gov/articles/unpa...oes-lng-update

❌ Myth: The Biden Administration is banning LNG exports in its war against fossil fuels

✅ Reality: The temporary pause in reviewing new non-FTA export applications. It will not affect operating LNG facilities or additional already authorized LNG exports. It will not disrupt projects under construction.

Before issuing any new LNG export decisions, DOE is embarking on a transparent process to ensure we are using the most up-to-date economic and environmental analyses to determine whether additional approvals of LNG exports to non-FTA countries are in the “public interest.”

Exports from existing terminals are not covered by the pause.
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Old 04-04-2024, 06:57 PM
 
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They did so during most of the Trump Presidency. Trump's gas/energy prices were much lower than Biden's.

Joe's puppetmasters are like the Keystone Cops on energy...laughably bad.

So, is Joe ever going to replenis our reserves that he wasted?
The marginal barrels produced in the Trump years came from under capitalized producers that had to produce, even at a loss, to pay their loans. Those producers are all gone, mostly to bankruptcy. Exxon, Chevron, Apache, etc do not need to produce at a loss to pay off loans. They can shut in production and wait for prices to go up.

On this site https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...wg_nus_dpg&f=m you can see that prices were trending up during the Trump years, with a dip in December of 2018 when world prices dropped, then dropped off a cliff during Covid.
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Old 04-04-2024, 07:03 PM
 
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Geez...that was too easy. Here's precisely what you asked for, right from Joe's desk:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...authorizations.

Joe also paused natural gas pipelines here in the u.s..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-oil-pipeline

Joe also halted the Keystone XL pipeline:

https://energycommerce.house.gov/pos...can-refineries

But suddenly, Joe did a 180 & the USA is pumping the Mother load of oil out of the ground, thus killing Mother Earth, melting ice, killing Polar Bears, raising the oceans, & global temps...why?

Where is the outrage from the Climate Change Activists? Where's Al Gore?


Where's all the oil going? Why can't Joe replenish our national strategic reserves, since he's pumping record levels?
The first link refers to new terminals that are in the planning stages, not terminals that are under construction or already exporting.

The Dakota Access pipeline is an oil pipeline and has nothing to do with LNG.

Refineries have nothing to do with LNG.

Keystone XL was not a benefit to the US. It was intended to move heavy Canadian crude to the Gulf Coast for export. Why can't Canada export it's oil on its own? In any case, Keystone XL had nothing to do with LNG.

The SPR isn't being replenished because it's a bad idea to do so at higher prices.
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Old 04-04-2024, 08:00 PM
 
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The first link refers to new terminals that are in the planning stages, not terminals that are under construction or already exporting.

The Dakota Access pipeline is an oil pipeline and has nothing to do with LNG.

Refineries have nothing to do with LNG.

Keystone XL was not a benefit to the US. It was intended to move heavy Canadian crude to the Gulf Coast for export. Why can't Canada export it's oil on its own? In any case, Keystone XL had nothing to do with LNG.

The SPR isn't being replenished because it's a bad idea to do so at higher prices.
There are some days when the willful ignorance is astounding.
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Old 04-04-2024, 08:10 PM
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So, why is Joe Biden killing Mother Earth with all these fossil fuels he's producing all the sudden?

Why is Joe blowing holes in the ozone layer with oil, when he could be using more natural gas instead?

Where are the tree huggers? Where are the climate change wack jobs? Al Gore's been quiet as a Church Mouse...since he quit.

Is it okay if Biden maxes out oil production, but its not when Trump does it? Is that the Libs stance?

Joe Biden has American blood from murderous illegals, and oil from record outputs, on his hands...but he hasn't fallen down in a while.
Maybe because unlike all the rumor mills that you read he never did anything to shutdown the US Petroleum Industry, he only has pushed to expand usage of alternative methods.

Our natural gas consumption is only limited by the availability of pipelines, ask the industry to expand them,

I made no comment on the eco freaks or Gore, feel free to explore that yourself.

Biden hasn't maxed out anything as I said before he never inhibited the industry, it just took the price rising to where they are making money instead of losing it for it to come back up to speed.

Can always count on the right-wing talking points, whatever.....
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