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I'm very much a Christian though I am not an evangelical, I hold somewhat different beliefs than they do.
Before I had ever decided to vote for Trump in 2015, I had researched as many of the 'sudden' claims from the women as I could. Not one of them had proof of their claims, and in fact many of their claims had been debunked in one way or another. I had not seen or heard of Trump cheating on Melania after he'd been voted in, nor have I seen where anyone had said he'd even tried to sexually harass them while he was in office.
His 2015 policies were good and he tried very hard to implement them, despite the left and the rino's working so hard to block him. His policies are still good while the left's are horrible, and Biden* has had a miserable track record over these past several years. We all know that he has the stamina to stand up to whatever the left throws at him. I will vote for him again.
DeSantis and Trump are pretty similar in many ways. Trump had the advantage of already doing the job, but DeSantis could possibly be two termer. Trump is not so much.
Some of you do not realize that at least 24% of our presidents have had affairs. Thats just the ones we know of.
And that is not counting all the other politicians, senators, state representatives, etc.
It's been obvious for decades that Trump not only isn't a man of God but rather pretty much rejects every evangelical value in the Book. For 8 years, the evangelicals have just buried their heads in the sand as their preachers pretended that Trump was sent from God in order to get Republican votes, but Trump's blasphemous Bible money grab looks like it's a bridge too far this time. True evangelicals won't suddenly vote for Biden, of course, but I wonder how many will stay home this time or just leave the Presidential race blank? It's amazing that they were able to embrace for so long a man who has 5 kids with 3 different mothers/trophy wives (I wonder what the reaction would have been if Obama had a similar family, LOL...), who makes fun of the handicapped, who berates refugees, who brags about sexual assault, who dismisses veterans and POWs, and who's never actually gone to a church service maybe ever. The power of politics, even over faith...
Unless you're God himself, you don't know whether Trump is a man of God or not. He's sinned, as have you and I and every person born of woman has.
There are no current candidates that threaten to take Evangelical voters from Trump.
It's been obvious for decades that Trump not only isn't a man of God but rather pretty much rejects every evangelical value in the Book. For 8 years, the evangelicals have just buried their heads in the sand as their preachers pretended that Trump was sent from God in order to get Republican votes, but Trump's blasphemous Bible money grab looks like it's a bridge too far this time. True evangelicals won't suddenly vote for Biden, of course, but I wonder how many will stay home this time or just leave the Presidential race blank? It's amazing that they were able to embrace for so long a man who has 5 kids with 3 different mothers/trophy wives (I wonder what the reaction would have been if Obama had a similar family, LOL...), who makes fun of the handicapped, who berates refugees, who brags about sexual assault, who dismisses veterans and POWs, and who's never actually gone to a church service maybe ever. The power of politics, even over faith...
The last four lines of your post are all lies from the left. He didn’t do any of those things. The thing you wrote I agree with is he had 5 kids from three different ladies. That being said, I know some conservatives who seem to think he is some high man of God. I can’t judge the heart but he doesn’t look like that to me. Why I think I will vote for him is because Biden is worse. The country cannot survive another four years of open borders. How many more America citizens need to be killed by illegal immigrants in order to shut the border?
Your comparison to Obama is also flawed. Trump is running against Biden. Want to talk about his family? Hey, I’m not going to sit here and judge and I’m not a single issue voter. The last SEVERAL presidential elections have been about voting for the least of two evils. When was the last time America actually had a strong leader running for president who openly loved this country and its constitution?
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DeSantis and Trump are pretty similar in many ways. Trump had the advantage of already doing the job, but DeSantis could possibly be two termer. Trump is not so much.
As I'd stated several times before... I like DeSantis and in normal times I do believe that he could be a great president, but I do not think he quite has it in him to be able to handle the extreme hate and underhanded shenanigans from the left. And fwiw, we do know that Trump can, and now will, handle whatever they throw at him. Let Trump deal with taking down the corrupt and after that then it might be the right time for DeSantis.
You are going with the "Yeah, we admit he's a sleazebag... but he is our sleazebag" approach.
Totally cool with that.
But please spare us the "character counts" and "family values" lectures from now on.
Character does count and I think Trump, as bad as he is, has more character and family values than Biden. Yes, the bar is low, very low, but that is the sad state of affairs we find ourselves in.
You are going with the "Yeah, we admit he's a sleazebag... but he is our sleazebag" approach.
Totally cool with that.
But please spare us the "character counts" and "family values" lectures from now on.
nope. thats not really it.
I am going with someone one is going to drive the direction of the country. One of them will do so with some semblance of reason and the other is pure evil.
Joe Biden is the evil one. This isnt hard. and its rather insulting to try to toss mud on those of us who are voting for the guy you see as really yucky.
As for your strawman "character counts".... Im pretty focused on Joe Biden is half braindead old man who has spent his entire career being on the wrong side of history including but not limited to, against desegregation, for the 1992 crime bill that proved to be utterly racist. against getting Bin Laden.... the insanity of the Afghan withdrawal.... I could go on for days.
Then there is the actual evil stuff. Like support for abortion up to and including the day of delivery. FUNDING IRAN.... being supportive of efforts to thwart free speech, and an open southern boarder lying to us about how he cant do anything yet on a daily bases human trafficers are raping, killing and enslaving women for sex trade. and oh the flow of fentanyl which is now killing thousands of people...evil. we could go on and on. for days.
then there is economy. literally every move he has made has been stupid. just utterly stupid.
On every single one of these points, DJT would do something different and better and also not evil.
No, you are 100% wrong. At least you admit he's not "one of you"!
Just because people of faith are not all evangelicals, and therefore may disagree with your politics, does not make them wrong. Your statement is faulty on many levels.
you said some words but provided no "levels"
if you want to debate a point, I am very happy to engage. please do so. it might be constructive.
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Unless you're God himself, you don't know whether Trump is a man of God or not. He's sinned, as have you and I and every person born of woman has.
