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I never said that all racists are republicans. I can tell you for a fact thought that from living in a red state most of the racist speak that you hear comes from the local flag-waving, truck driving, bush cheney bumper sticker republicans. Racism isn't some line that is within the borders of one party or another and I understand that. I deliberately noted that republican values do not breed racism.
What do you mean by limiting and fooling themselves?
I mean they are limiting themselves by being beholden to the Democratic party thinking it is the party of racial tolerance exclusively.
I mean they are limiting themselves by being beholden to the Democratic party thinking it is the party of racial tolerance.
I take it a step further. Let's assume that Democrats are more racially tolerant. I don't care who you are, if the politician KNOWS you are going to vote for them they aren't going to support you with political capital.
Basically, I think that the democratic party does a lot less for the black community than it promises (or should) because they know they won't cross party lines. There are a number of other (smaller) groups that seem to have more influence but that's because they will cross party lines.
I know for many Hispanics a tipping point came when the AM right wing radio listeners all got up in arms and killed the comprehensive immigration reform bill going through congress. Most Democrats, and most Americans, were fine with the bipartisan bill. But a loud frenzied minority (The "Throw them all out and build a really big Wall") crowd forced the status quo. There was a lot of ugly anti-Hispanic talk that came out during that period, a lot of underlying racism expressed. This did not go unnoticed. Also a lot of hard working legal Hispanics are just sick and tired of being lumped in with illegals every time the word "Hispanic" is uttered.
It is ironic that the killing of that reform bill could now come back to bite that same frenzied crowd in the rear as we head into the election.
I mean they are limiting themselves by being beholden to the Democratic party thinking it is the party of racial tolerance exclusively.
I can agree with that. I don't think either party spreads racism. I think those who are racist just so happen to be ______________ <- insert party here.
I know for many Hispanics a tipping point came when the AM right wing radio listeners all got up in arms and killed the comprehensive immigration reform bill going through congress. Most Democrats, and most Americans, were fine with the bipartisan bill. But a loud frenzied minority (The "Throw them all out and build a really big Wall") crowd forced the status quo. There was a lot of ugly anti-Hispanic talk that came out during that period, a lot of underlying racism expressed. This did not go unnoticed. Also a lot of hard working legal Hispanics are just sick and tired of being lumped in with illegals every time the word "Hispanic" is uttered.
It is ironic that the killing of that reform bill could now come back to bite that same frenzied crowd in the rear as we head into the election.
Yeah, Hispanics are swing voters not aligned to a specific party....its funny to watch the pandering.
FYI- Bush carried an enormous margin in Florida in the Hispanic community when he beat gore by the tiniest of margins. Pretty much the Elian Gonzalez debacle cost Gore the presidency....rather interesting.
Yeah, Hispanics are swing voters not aligned to a specific party....its funny to watch the pandering.
FYI- Bush carried an enormous margin in Florida in the Hispanic community when he beat gore by the tiniest of margins. Pretty much the Elian Gonzalez debacle cost Gore the presidency....rather interesting.
True. But now there is a shift in the Hispanic community in Florida. There are more registered Democrats than Republicans, due in part to a large influx of PuertoRican Democratic voters.
"Comprehensive Immigration Reform"? Please. Absorbing ten to twelve million illegals every 15 years reforms nothing. It is simply wholesale national metamorphosis, with our eyes firmly closed to the consequences -- all in the interest of creating a new voting bloc for the Democrat party, while denying other groups the opportunity to immigrate legally.
"Comprehensive Immigration Reform"? Please. Absorbing ten to twelve million illegals every 15 years reforms nothing. It is simply wholesale national metamorphosis, with our eyes firmly closed to the consequences -- all in the interest of creating a new voting bloc for the Democrat party, while denying other groups the opportunity to immigrate legally.
And you will get plenty of fans up in the immigration forum to clap along with you. However most Americans understand that in reality we cannot just uproot and export 15-20 million people. Absorbing the ones that have been here and are demonstrated positive contributors to our society in conjunction with stricter borders is the only realistic and compassionate solution. (And also as it relates to the old "bottom line" - See what Texas Employers have to say about the topic.
Throwing one's hands up and crying don't accomplish much of anything, except to promote the status quo.
(As an interesting fyi - since we have tightened the border over the past several years, illegal immigration numbers in the U.S. have risen. Before there was a seasonal migration, now when they get here they stay for good.)
And you will get plenty of fans up in the immigration forum to clap along with you.
Which means nothing to me.
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However most Americans understand that in reality we cannot just uproot and export 15-20 million people.
I never said that we should.
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Absorbing the ones that have been here and are demonstrated positive contributors to our society in conjunction with stricter borders is the only realistic and compassionate solution.
How wolud you propose to separate that group from those who are not demosntrated positive contributors to our society? Would we be lacking in compassion by deporting drug dealers, criminals, and the insane, for example?
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Throwing one's hands up and crying don't accomplish much of anything, except to promote the status quo.
I agree. So why are you proposing it?
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(As an interesting fyi - since we have tightened the border over the past several years, illegal immigration numbers in the U.S. have risen. Before there was a seasonal migration, now when they get here they stay for good.)
Hmm. You mentioned instituting "stricter borders" just above. Are you in favor of increased illegal immigration, then, since you argue that the tightened border increases it?
Yes, a very difficult and complex issue. Certainly no simple solutions.
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