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Old 05-19-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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And Spanish settled UK and Ireland 8.000 years ago, that's why original British and Irish are very similar to Spanish.
The "Spanish" did not "settle" in the UK and Ireland...simply because Spain and "Spaniards" did not exist then.

Historically speaking, it is very dangerous to mix-and-match historical places and peoples with modern cultures and Nations. For example, the people living 8000 years ago in what would become "Spain" would look and be genetically different from a modern Spaniard. This also happens on a shorter time scale, with many examples: from pre-Gothic Italy compared to today, to Celtic "France" compared to today, etc etc.

 
Old 05-19-2012, 08:13 AM
 
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The "Spanish" did not "settle" in the UK and Ireland...simply because Spain and "Spaniards" did not exist then.

Historically speaking, it is very dangerous to mix-and-match historical places and peoples with modern cultures and Nations. For example, the people living 8000 years ago in what would become "Spain" would look and be genetically different from a modern Spaniard. This also happens on a shorter time scale, with many examples: from pre-Gothic Italy compared to today, to Celtic "France" compared to today, etc etc.
Exactly and people don't think about that.

Also, there Jewish and "White" Hispanics in the US. Many came from Cuba, where many people from Spain settled during Franco's reign there. So, there are White Hispanics in the US.

There are also east Asians that came by way of Latin America. For instance, there were Chinese that settled in the Mississippi Delta in which many came by way of Cuba over a century ago. Many of the Latin American countries that are on the Pacific coast have East Asian communities too. So, there are other Asians than Filipinos that can be consider to be Hispanic.
 
Old 05-19-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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It's funny how the media portrays full blooded Spaniards like Antonio Banderas, Penelope Cruz and Julio Iglesias as non-whites.
I have never read or heard any of these three characterized as "non-white."

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There are many native Spaniards with blue eyes and blonde hair, but just because most have brown eyes, dark hair an a tan, dfoesnt mean they aint white.

I mean most Americans would consider them non-white.
If the latter state were true, it would only proves that most Americans are total jerks when it comes to anything outside the realm of the local shopping mall.

Race and ethnicity has been an obsession since colonial times. Most Americans are thoroughly caught up in this traditional national obsession and their ideas are on the subject are a mess......[/quote]
 
Old 05-19-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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People care way too much about this crap
 
Old 08-02-2012, 10:43 PM
 
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I'm Spanish (from Galicia) and people in Spain don't even know what Hispanics are. I have a white complexion, hazel eyes, tall and I have straight long hair. Spanish, Italians and Portuguese are definitely the best looking Europeans since we don't look pasty as **** like someone from Germany or Austria, although you can find darker people in those countries. Most Americans think since my last name is Gómez I'm automatically from Mexico or south america and I do get offended, very offended actually.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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FYI

When Spain controlled Mexico, they created a caste system to try to keep the Spanish blood pure.

"The Mexican Caste System" by Fulano_de_Tal | San Diego Reader


It didn't work. Caste systems never work.

Only total geographical separation keeps ethnic/racial groups from miscegenation.


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Old 08-03-2012, 05:27 AM
 
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Most Americans think since my last name is Gómez I'm automatically from Mexico or south america and I do get offended, very offended actually.
I don't get why you have to be so offended by someone mistaking you for a Mexican or South American.

It's interesting how some Hispanix like to emphasize their whiteness and get offended for being associated with Latin Americans.

Is it such a shame to be associated with Latin Americans, many of whom have features such as dark skin, non-straight hair, shorter stature, etc.?

After all, Spaniards do have a lot in common culturally with brown, short Latin Americans than with white, tall Germanix.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 07:40 AM
 
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"Hispanic" is a blanket term that's way too broad, if you ask me. Many Mexican-Americans of my generation (and of the generation above mine) are not fond of the term because it glosses over our Indian blood. 55% of Mexicans, and probably the overwhelming majority of people of Mexican descent in the US, are "mestizo": that is, Spanish/Indian mix. Dominicans and Puerto Ricans have African blood. The term "Hispanic" sweeps all this under the rug.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 07:48 AM
 
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It's funny how the media portrays full blooded Spaniards like Antonio Banderas, Penelope Cruz and Julio Iglesias as non-whites.

There are many native Spaniards with blue eyes and blonde hair, but just because most have brown eyes, dark hair an a tan, dfoesnt mean they aint white.

I mean most Americans would consider them non-white.

The same Americans would say Christiano Ronaldo (portugese), Al Pacino (Italian-American) and Monica Belucci (Italian) are white.
I don't know what fantasy world you are in, but Spaniards are classified as white.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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"Hispanic" is a blanket term that's way too broad, if you ask me. Many Mexican-Americans of my generation (and of the generation above mine) are not fond of the term because it glosses over our Indian blood. 55% of Mexicans, and probably the overwhelming majority of people of Mexican descent in the US, are "mestizo": that is, Spanish/Indian mix. Dominicans and Puerto Ricans have African blood. The term "Hispanic" sweeps all this under the rug.
Hispanic just means you have some ancestry from Spain and that usually your native or primary langauge is Spanish. Hispanic is also considered a culture. I don't know why Spaniards, Latinos, Mexicans etc. would take offense at the term. Mestizo Mexicans do have anestoral roots in Spain even though they are usually part native indian also. Some are part black racially also. What's the big deal?
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