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Old 09-05-2008, 10:35 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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I forgot it's the unions fault...
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I have to prove to you that a company wouldnt jump at a chance to knock payroll down by 90%....O.k go to china or india ...companies are doing it everyday my friend just not here!!!
You didn't just claim that they want to reduce payroll costs, you claimed that they would break the law to do it. That's what you have to prove. You leveled the accusation AND you stated that:
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I know alot [of companies] that would ...
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... hire illegal aliens for 3 bucks a day with no bennies and unsafe working conditions
You stated unequivocally that you KNEW "alot" (sic) of companies that would do that. I just want you to name them. If they would do that, then I want to make sure that I don't give them any of my business.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:46 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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American Teamsters seem to be the only ones keeping out truck drivers form our neighbor Mexico (supported by the bush administration). If the Mexican truck drivers are allowed in, it will mean American jobs. For all you angry people who feel Americans have a right to work (from a few posts ago), you should be supporting the Teamsters Union.
I support any organization that promotes fair, safe working conditions that pays better then welfare with retirement and health insurance to american citizens who pay taxes...period!! it just so happens that most are union, in the trades.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:48 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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You didn't just claim that they want to reduce payroll costs, you claimed that they would break the law to do it. That's what you have to prove. You leveled the accusation AND you stated that:


You stated unequivocally that you KNEW "alot" (sic) of companies that would do that. I just want you to name them. If they would do that, then I want to make sure that I don't give them any of my business.
I stand corrected...they found a way around the law and its called NAFTA..
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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I'm going to lunch...I'll fight with ya later!
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I stand corrected...they found a way around the law and its called NAFTA..
So you're not going to name these companies that you KNOW would do this. I guess it stands to reason that you're not going to provide any proof, either.

You're just another "me first" union supporter that's not able to back up their arguments with any of those pesky facts, then. Go ahead and put me on your ignore list, just like sberdrow did when he backed himself into a corner. I won't relent, and you're obviously not able to back up your claims, so you may as well just give up now.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:24 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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Dude ,do you read the paper?i'll say it again we lost all american jobs to third world countries ..fact..you choose to claim its all the unions fault. When it is indeed corporate greed at 3 bucks a day...period!! I will look up all the companies if you like but it will take me a month to list all #1 I am right a company will jump at the chance to kill american jobs at 3 bucks a day #2 it is not the unions fault #3 I am right ,you are wrong....goodbye
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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we lost all american jobs to third world countries ..fact..you choose to claim its all the unions fault.
Another person putting words in my mouth...

Sigh... I feel like a broken record here - quote my post where I said that.

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I will look up all the companies if you like but it will take me a month to list all
You don't need to list all - just "alot" (sic), which is what you claimed.

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#1 I am right a company will jump at the chance to kill american jobs at 3 bucks a day
Generalization, and mostly false.

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#2 it is not the unions fault
Huh? What isn't? What the hell are you talking about?!

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#3 I am right ,you are wrong....goodbye
Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion. Your opinion is just as right as mine. That's why I use FACTS to support my opinion. You've been posting a lot, but IIRC, you haven't posted a single FACT. That's all I'm asking for.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:40 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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adc,aetna,a.edwards,a.i.g,alcoa,a.o smith,apple,avaya,ashland,AMD,allstate,american standard, those are just some of the companies that start with ''A''....Go to exporting america from CNN and you can find thousands of companies that screwed america....I win swagger...give up!
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:41 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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you gave no facts swagger!!
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