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Old 10-03-2008, 07:11 PM
 
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Iran is willing to talk about suspending enrichment in exchange for fuel. Keep in mind that Ahmadinejad is as much puppet and mouthpiece as anything else (a little bit like both Bush and Palin in that regard). A serious role being played by the US alongside actually cooperative Europeans could well make some progress...
There was an expert on NPR this week indicating this too. Apparently, Iran had approached us less than a decade ago and we did not listen as we got distracted with its neighbor. Now Iran is strategically in much better shape and is less willing to bend over.

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Old 10-03-2008, 07:11 PM
 
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The US cannot stay in Iraq forever. Both Iraqis and the majority of US opinion want the US out of Iraq! What do you propose.. we stay there forever as an occupying force?
Well, shipping them all off to Afghanistan is an option, but not a much better one. Europe is already bringing pressure to just let the Afghans go. They aren't eager to be investing more of their own troops and we don't have enough to do that job alone. Second installment on the price of leaving there too early to go off to Iraq for no real reason.
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Heading to the NW, 4 sure.
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It now seems highly unlikely there will be military action against Iran which is becoming the superpower in the Middle East. Looks like Israel and even the rabid, foaming at the mouth war mongers have come to terms with the inevitability of a nuclear Iran. Military action would guarantee $250. oil and a worldwide depression x10.
uh. the BO candidate said something like Iran is a Little Country and nothing to fear from "them". Ya...listen to Patriout Radio ch 144 on Sirius.
They quoted him re this..


WAKE UP AMERICA..

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Old 10-03-2008, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Exactly..why are we talking about bombing Iran..War with Iran..aren't they "small...tiny..." and pose "no threat to us".
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:27 PM
 
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There was an expert on NPR this week indicating this too. Apparently, Iran had approached us less than a decade ago and we did not listen as we got distracted with its neighbor. Now Iran is strategically in much better shape and is less willing to bend over.
Same sort of deal with Libya in the months after 9/11. The Russians had put a fuel offer on the table with Tehran a few years ago which looked good for a while, but then it just went cold for some reason. They have sent some in more recently in conjunction with a civilian power plant they are building, so there's at least some ground to build on there if the Iranians see it to be in their interest...
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:29 PM
 
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uh. the BO candidate said something like Iran is a Little Country and nothing to fear from "them". Ya...listen to Patriout Radio ch 144 on Sirius. They quoted him re this..WAKE UP AMERICA..
HW
I believe what he said was that Iran was a small threat compared to what the USSR was over the 45 years of the Cold War. Is that how your Patriot Boys reported it?
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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There was an expert on NPR this week indicating this too. Apparently, Iran had approached us less than a decade ago and we did not listen as we got distracted with its neighbor. Now Iran is strategically in much better shape and is less willing to bend over.

Huckleberry & 60-min -> I sincerely hope you guys are wrong!
I listened to that interview. He concluded that a war with Iran would last 30 years. We'd lose any influence with the Middle East through diplomacy. Any changes we'd want would have to be done through force. The whole time all I could think about was the plan.

The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies Jerusalem, Washington

The PNAC Letter to Bush, Sept. 20, 2001 (http://zfacts.com/p/165.html - broken link)
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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The US cannot stay in Iraq forever.
Sure it can. The future of your country depends on it. You'll be in Iraq until you gain control of Iran or you until find some other way of having unrestricted unfettered access to the Central Asian states via air, rail and road.
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:02 AM
 
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I listened to that interview. He concluded that a war with Iran would last 30 years.
30 days.

I know, I was there.
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Bush looks for the buildup and intervenes.
Maybe he should have been looking in 2001 rather than being on vacation for 5 months. Or reading My Pet Goat. Jeez, are you people utterly clueless?
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