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Old 10-15-2008, 12:55 PM
 
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My 81 year old Mother in Law just got some very expensive Heart Surgery. Because of her age and financial situation, it was all paid for by the taxpayers. She is a nice enough woman but not really much of a value to society anymore. She never worked and basically just sits in a chair all day, eats and watches television. She is about 300 pounds.

Maybe in the very near future our society will determine that our taxpayers can not afford to offer this life saving medical care to people like her. As the number of expensive tests continue to grow, prescription drugs get more expensive and expensive life saving technology is used to keep people going for years, we just will not be able to afford to keep 81 year old retired people like my Mother In Law alive.

When will this happen and how will it be done ethically, morally, and politically?
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Why not.....taxpayers are paying for the sick in Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi, Georgia and list goes on. Why not your grandmother
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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No. She is not rich enough to afford life, which in America is sold to the highest bidder.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:19 PM
 
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Some off topic answers so far. I would still like to hear from people who have ideas on how America is going to cut Medicare Spending in the future when our budget deficit gets so high that it really starts impacting our economy.

In ten or twenty years will someone like my Mother in Law have her $100,000 Surgery paid for by the tax payers?
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:25 PM
 
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Do I think we should be forced to help her through taxes? No... but I can tell you that in many situations like this, simply asking for help from the community does wonders. I have seen "donations" in situations like this be it monetary, time or skill do miracles through the good nature of people who "choose" to do so.

Some people will help if asked and those same people will deny when forced.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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In 10 or 20 years the world will be changed a lot less than you think it will. We will still be in deinal about almost all difficult truths, including the simple fact that I already stated in my first reply: Life will still be sold to the highest bidder. The only difference is that that same surgery will cost a millioin dollars.

Nomander, are you telling us that you have seen $100,000 put, a nickel at a time, into a mayonnaise jar on the counter at the convenience store to pay for the surgery for a pre-existing condition for some American? (This humiliating begging only occurs in America.) And this largesse is so reliable that I never need to worry about any future medical expenses as long as there are glass jars and convenience stores?
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:27 PM
 
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Medicare and healthcare in general, should focus more on preventing illness. Educate people on eating right, that alone would save millions. More than half of the cost could be avoided if people lived a healthier lifestyle... eating well and exercise being the two most important.

Eventually, if things keep going as they are, they will probably have to deny certain procedures to those above a certain age.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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In 10 or 20 years the world will be changed a lot less than you think it will. We will still be in deinal about almost all difficult truths, including the simple fact that I already stated in my first reply: Life will still be sold to the highest bidder. The only difference is that that same surgery will cost a millioin dollars.
I agree.
Greed seems to be the downfall of humanity.
It's the devil inside....
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
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She is legally entitled to Medicare regardless of her age, abilities or cost. I don't have a problem with it but I understand your point.
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What I do have a problem with is when younger people are also in need of medical care and can't get it due to being uninsured or not qualifying for Medicaid because their employer offers it but they can't afford the family plan. This is the area which needs to seriously be addressed. Same is true for dental care. If people got proper preventive or early health care when they were young adults, perhaps they wouldn't be such a drain on the system once they got older.

Interesting topic.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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OP - a truly interesting topic. Some of the comments about exercise and lifestyle can also be extended to proper innoculations - we can save tons of money this way too.

I had read somewhere that a disproportionate amount of medical expenses on a person are in the last few years of his/her life. These resources, if administered earlier, would be much more effective. Money is limited for all of us. The solutions are going to be very tough and probably unfair to many.
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