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Old 11-25-2008, 06:27 PM
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Well if gay marriage becomes fully legal in this country, then perhaps I will.
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:28 PM
 
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I guess a brother and sister living in the same household should get similar benefits right?
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:29 PM
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exactly Finkie Mcghee
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I don't think I would care what mormons do as long as they don't try to tell the rest of us what to do (as they did in the Prop 8 election). For federal benefits and insurance though, I don't think it's fair for more than a couple to receive them...
Agreed.
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Well 2 gays living together can get insurance benefits from many companies, but 2 brothers who happen to live together are not entitled to that. That is unfair !!
I never thought I'd agree with you but I do.

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The struggle for same-sex marriage rights is only one part of a larger effort to strengthen the security and stability of diverse households and families. LGBT communities have ample reason to recognize that families and relationships know no borders and will never slot narrowly into a single existing template.
Allfamilies, relationships, and households struggling for stability and economic security will be helped by separating basic forms of legal and economic recognition from the requirement of marital and conjugal relationship.
U.S. Census findings tell us that a majority of people, whatever their sexual and gender identities, do not live in traditional nuclear families. Recognizing the diverse households that already are the norm in this country is simply a matter of expanding upon the various forms of legal recognition that already are available. The LGBT movement has played an instrumental role in creating and advocating for domestic partnerships, second parent adoptions, reciprocal beneficiary arrangements, joint tenancy/home-ownership contracts, health care proxies, powers of attorney, and other mechanisms that help provide stability and security for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and heterosexual individuals and families. During the height of the AIDS epidemic, our communities formed support systems and constructed new kinds of families and partnerships in the face of devastating crisis and heartbreak. Both our communities and our HIV organizations recognized, respected, and fought for the rights of non-traditionally constructed families and non-conventional partnerships. Moreover, the transgender and bisexual movements, so often historically left behind or left out by the larger lesbian and gay movement, have powerfully challenged legal constructions of relationship and fought for social, legal, and economic recognition of partnerships, households, and families, which include members who shatter the narrow confines of gender conformity.
To have our government define as “legitimate families” only those households with couples in conjugal relationships does a tremendous disservice to the many other ways in which people actually construct their families, kinship networks, households, and relationships. For example, who among us seriously will argue that the following kinds of households are less socially, economically, and spiritually worthy?
· Senior citizens living together, serving as each other’s caregivers, partners, and/or constructed families
· Adult children living with and caring for their parents
· Grandparents and other family members raising their children’s (and/or a relative’s) children
· Committed, loving households in which there is more than one conjugal partner
· Blended families
· Single parent households
· Extended families (especially in particular immigrant populations) living under one roof, whose members care for one another
· ***** couples who decide to jointly create and raise a child with another ***** person or couple, in two households
· Close friends and siblings who live together in long-term, committed, non-conjugal relationships, serving as each other’s primary support and caregivers
· Care-giving and partnership relationships that have been developed to provide support systems to those living with HIV/AIDS
Marriage is not the only worthy form of family or relationship, and it should not be legally and economically privileged above all others. While we honor those for whom marriage is the most meaningful personal ­– for some, also a deeply spiritual – choice, we believe that many other kinds of kinship relationship, households, and families must also be accorded recognition.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:02 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Well 2 gays living together can get insurance benefits from many companies, but 2 brothers who happen to live together are not entitled to that. That is unfair !!
If those two brothers register as domestic partners, then yes they can get benefits... and if gays were allowed to marry their partners, this wouldn't be an issue, now would it?

Furthermore, two gay men/women can't get benefits for living together in a platonic situation. Straight couples can register as domestic partners, so can gay people, and neither can register with a friend or relative - so it seems things are about equal there, huh?
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:12 PM
 
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Do Gays consider polygamy acceptable in a free society?

May I ask why you happened to word your question like that? Oh, I know. You are trying to link gays with polygamy so you can say that if gays are allowed to marry polygamy will happening. Good try. Stop being so intolerant.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:54 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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For the record... I'm not gay but for gay rights, and I have no problem with polygamy. As long as all parties are consenting adults, I don't have a problem with any type of arrangement - life is short, knock yourself out!
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