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So who died because they could not get into an ER?
Spin anything you wish ti spin, who is dying?
The rantings of the clueless. If you read the articles I provided, you would see what is happening. But you can't see the forest for the trees..........
Well if you don't have a salary then you have unemployment, welfare and food stamps. What..you want it all and you want it for free ?
All but food stamps should be abolished. And its not free when the taxpayers-regardless of income-pay for the same system to use. If Warren buffet can't do good making 85 million dollars instead of 136 million after taxes then we have something wrong with him. Because 85 buys a lot of exotic cars and high end hookers and cocaine and heck even private healthcare if I wanted it.
The current system does not work and you think taking it over totally by the government will make it better ?
Instead of $14 per pill, tylenol will go up to $200 per pill (charge in hospitals) and the insurers and drug makers will get even richer.
The best way to bring health care down is to completely drop insurance except for hospital care ..the way it used to be. Doctors start charging directly and patients pay directly and watch how quick costs come down to within salary levels.
Nations that have UHC negotiate price with pharmaceutical companies. The US does not. We pay full retail that includes medicare. Elderly pay full price for their meds on fixed incomes. Many of the elderly used to cross into Canada for cheaper meds but Bush made it illegal for Americans to do this. I wonder why?
Been reading/contributing to this thread off and on. I've read that story before. Yes, it's horrifying. But it has nothing to do with the woman's health insurance, as far as I can tell.
Not to mention, there has been research that disproves that people w/o health insurance use the ER more than those with it. People are not utilizing the health care system very well. Most, of not virtually all, physican practices have some way of contacting them on weekends and after hours. But many people don't do it, they go to the ER instead.
Been reading/contributing to this thread off and on. I've read that story before. Yes, it's horrifying. But it has nothing to do with the woman's health insurance, as far as I can tell.
Not to mention, there has been research that disproves that people w/o health insurance use the ER more than those with it. People are not utilizing the health care system very well. Most, of not virtually all, physican practices have some way of contacting them on weekends and after hours. But many people don't do it, they go to the ER instead.
READ beekeepers quote. That no one has died to get in the ER.
Here it is:"So who died because they could not get into an ER?"
READ beekeepers quote. That no one has died to get in the ER.
Here it is:"So who died because they could not get into an ER?"
So someone presents an example of another someone dying in an ER. It wasn't the first time, and it won't be the last. My point is that this woman's death did not seem to have anything to do with her health insurance. which is supposed to be the topic. It was negligence, apparently, on the part of the staff.
So someone presents an example of another someone dying in an ER. It wasn't the first time, and it won't be the last. My point is that this woman's death did not seem to have anything to do with her health insurance. which is supposed to be the topic. It was negligence, apparently, on the part of the staff.
She probably had no health insurance which is why she was treated this way.
^wow!
some terrible people. I posted an article that was not bias. Like most stats or facts reported in left or right wing journals against or with UHC. The fact is US healthcare is not comparable to most industrialized healthcare availability to the common people. Going to the ER and never paying because you don't have the money is not a good thing since it will send prices up to us who have mediocre healthcare insurance. Which is the majority of the people.
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