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Old 03-02-2009, 10:09 PM
 
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Because American: 1. are impatient. They hate waiting. 2. They like to have a choice of facility and doctors. 3. They demand the best and latest and would settle for nothing less.
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Because American: 1. are impatient. They hate waiting. 2. They like to have a choice of facility and doctors. 3. They demand the best and latest and would settle for nothing less.
Watching TV does not help. Every patient can not receive $1million in hi-tech tests and another $1million of hi-tech surgeries.

The same goes for jury duty. If you watch the crime dramas on TV; you expect every PD to have a forensics lab. They don't.
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why doesn't the United States have Universal Health Care??
Because health care is between you and your doctor. Nowhere does the government fit into the equation.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Because health care is between you and your doctor. Nowhere does the government fit into the equation.
The point is that a lot of people cannot afford to go to the doctor because they are uninsured.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:15 AM
 
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We actually do have universal health care to some degree. Most children under 18 are covered for major medical problems through medicaide. People 65 and older have Medicare. It's the 18-64 that have a problem. These people are of working age. If they are in school, most colleges have healthcare available for free or a very low rate. The rest, well, work and pay for it like anything else.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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We actually do have universal health care to some degree. Most children under 18 are covered for major medical problems through medicaide. People 65 and older have Medicare. It's the 18-64 that have a problem. These people are of working age. If they are in school, most colleges have healthcare available for free or a very low rate. The rest, well, work and pay for it like anything else.
Have you noticed that corporations have been slashing jobs for several years now, and that unemployment is soaring, and that with job loss comes loss of insurance, and with loss of insurances comes loss of access to medical treatment?

Are you living in Fantasyland? Or do you just not give a damn?
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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Have you noticed that corporations have been slashing jobs for several years now, and that unemployment is soaring, and that with job loss comes loss of insurance, and with loss of insurances comes loss of access to medical treatment?

Are you living in Fantasyland? Or do you just not give a damn?
No. I don't give a damn about you in particular. If you or your family have chronic medical problems and need continued care, the system itself suffers for it, but no hospital can legally turn you down for lack of insurance. Perhaps when things turn around for you or your family, you'd take some measure to the situation doesn't repeat itself.
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Let's see - I can't ever get Medicare so, I guess I just have to take responsibility for my own healthcare!

What a concept!
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Have you noticed that corporations have been slashing jobs for several years now, and that unemployment is soaring, and that with job loss comes loss of insurance, and with loss of insurances comes loss of access to medical treatment?

Are you living in Fantasyland? Or do you just not give a damn?
Despite the current state of the economy, most adults under age 65 are still employed. The unemployment rate is not at a crisis level. It's also a fact that most employers provide some kind of medical insurance ... and people who are unemployed can still obtain insurance through COBRA or other programs. Even so, there are insurance plans that practically anybody can buy into regardless of employment status.

If you look around, most everybody has some kind of medical insurance. The rate of the uninsured is still very low in comparison. Also, most everybody who has medical insurance is satisfied with their plans and their doctors. Granted, the current privatized system isn't perfect, but making health insurance universal or entirely government funded is NOT the solution.

In order for health care to be more affordable for everyone, I believe two things must happen. First, reduce the number of frivolous malpractice suits. That alone is a contributing factor to the high cost of insurance, doctor's visits, and prescriptions. When people sue their doctors or providers for every little thing, that causes the costs to rise, and they push the increased costs onto the patients. Second, reduce the tax burden for everyone across the board. Income & property taxes consume a large amount of people's incomes ... but if they were cut or eliminated, more people would be able to afford higher quality services (such as education & health care).
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Despite the current state of the economy, most adults under age 65 are still employed.
Good point.


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... The unemployment rate is not at a crisis level.
Good point.

Some folks do just insist that each little thing is a crisis.



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... people who are unemployed can still obtain insurance through COBRA or other programs.
True.



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... If you look around, most everybody has some kind of medical insurance. The rate of the uninsured is still very low in comparison. Also, most everybody who has medical insurance is satisfied with their plans and their doctors.
Well said.



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... Granted, the current privatized system isn't perfect, but making health insurance universal or entirely government funded is NOT the solution.
I agree.



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... In order for health care to be more affordable for everyone, I believe two things must happen. First, reduce the number of frivolous malpractice suits. That alone is a contributing factor to the high cost of insurance, doctor's visits, and prescriptions. When people sue their doctors or providers for every little thing, that causes the costs to rise, and they push the increased costs onto the patients.
I agree.



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... Second, reduce the tax burden for everyone across the board. Income & property taxes consume a large amount of people's incomes ... but if they were cut or eliminated, more people would be able to afford higher quality services (such as education & health care).
Maybe.

I don't pay income tax, so it really does not effect me.
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