The US Tax system is Just a Redistribution of Wealth **SOCIALISM**

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by josehernandez017

The point is that I met face to face with someone who was getting a refund without even paying a cent in taxes. I thought why don't I just donate money to this stranger and cut out the IRS. That is what the IRS is doing with my tax dollars??? Isn't that just like socialism??

He's probably a farmer.

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Originally Posted by evilnewbie

"Uniform" has been reinterpreted... it is now different tax brackets for different income... to me uniform means "one" rate.... but I guess people in power decide whatever they want... it just so happens that their methods nets them more cash.... hmmm... no funny business there...

Progressive income taxes were enabled by the Sixteenth Amendment:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

[mpyne]

Originally Posted by josehernandez017

I was a little upset today when I went in to the office where I get my taxes done. They were very busy doing taxes and I overheard several people asking how much they were getting back. One of them was recieving a refund even though they paid no taxes. They asked me if I was ready to do taxes and I said "Believe me, I am not in a hurry especially when I will owe taxes" I am waiting until April 15th to file and send in my check.

The point is that I met face to face with someone who was getting a refund without even paying a cent in taxes. I thought why don't I just donate money to this stranger and cut out the IRS. That is what the IRS is doing with my tax dollars??? Isn't that just like socialism??

Give your money to the government and let them redistribute it to folks that are far less productive than you just to make everything fair?? That just doesn't sound right. What incentive do I have to excel if all my money is just going to go to some unproductive stranger who can just sit back and collect my money??

My job was outsourced to India but I received a refund this year. Ill trade you.

[darstar]

How about a flat tax ?... and as well VAT...We WILL have to move toward some sort of new plan..in order to survive. If its more in the direction of Social services for the masses...so be it. Works for most other Countries. Just look up North. The most stable Financial Country in the world...Canada.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by josehernandez017

I was a little upset today when I went in to the office where I get my taxes done. They were very busy doing taxes and I overheard several people asking how much they were getting back. One of them was recieving a refund even though they paid no taxes. They asked me if I was ready to do taxes and I said "Believe me, I am not in a hurry especially when I will owe taxes" I am waiting until April 15th to file and send in my check.

The point is that I met face to face with someone who was getting a refund without even paying a cent in taxes. I thought why don't I just donate money to this stranger and cut out the IRS. That is what the IRS is doing with my tax dollars??? Isn't that just like socialism??

Give your money to the government and let them redistribute it to folks that are far less productive than you just to make everything fair?? That just doesn't sound right. What incentive do I have to excel if all my money is just going to go to some unproductive stranger who can just sit back and collect my money??

I do not think that people who paid nothing in taxes should get refunds. I am opposed to that BUT I am for the government using the tax system to redistribute some wealth, in the form of programs and services to the poor and the working class. I have no problem with that at all.

[newonecoming]

Originally Posted by josehernandez017

I was a little upset today when I went in to the office where I get my taxes done. They were very busy doing taxes and I overheard several people asking how much they were getting back. One of them was recieving a refund even though they paid no taxes. They asked me if I was ready to do taxes and I said "Believe me, I am not in a hurry especially when I will owe taxes" I am waiting until April 15th to file and send in my check.

The point is that I met face to face with someone who was getting a refund without even paying a cent in taxes. I thought why don't I just donate money to this stranger and cut out the IRS. That is what the IRS is doing with my tax dollars??? Isn't that just like socialism??

Give your money to the government and let them redistribute it to folks that are far less productive than you just to make everything fair?? That just doesn't sound right. What incentive do I have to excel if all my money is just going to go to some unproductive stranger who can just sit back and collect my money??

What you saw was cover. The real wealth redistribution is going the other way. The supper rich are getting richer at the middle class and lower classes expence.

Originally Posted by mpyne

My job was outsourced to India but I received a refund this year. Ill trade you.

What I want to see is that the person that is now doing your job gets US minimum wage it will make it more expensive to outsource and really boost the economy of the world.

Originally Posted by evilnewbie

"Uniform" has been reinterpreted... it is now different tax brackets for different income... to me uniform means "one" rate.... but I guess people in power decide whatever they want... it just so happens that their methods nets them more cash.... hmmm... no funny business there...

Take a look at the tax rate history and the total debt history
http://nickgogerty.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83454b17a69e20115711eec3b970b-800wi
http://www.kwaves.com/debt_gdp.gif
Cutting the taxes on the rich leads to debt bubbles.

Originally Posted by KevK

I do not think that people who paid nothing in taxes should get refunds. I am opposed to that BUT I am for the government using the tax system to redistribute some wealth, in the form of programs and services to the poor and the working class. I have no problem with that at all.

The working class is becoming poor. The tax code is being used to redistribute wealth to the top.