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Old 01-11-2009, 08:09 PM
 
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Legalized drugs only way to halt cartels - El Paso Times


I for one think it's time to do it. Prohibition has done nothing but created a black market. I say legalize it and tax the hell out of it.

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Old 01-11-2009, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I dunno, I think it is far too complex an issue for me to really form a strong opinion one way or the other. Good arguments can be made on each side.
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Old 01-11-2009, 09:57 PM
 
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Do it just to anger the mormons
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Old 01-11-2009, 10:04 PM
 
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Not only weed, but every drug should be legalized.

Not because I agree with the use of every drug, but because it's clear that prohibition doesn't and will never work. Alcohol prohibition is paralleling todays war on drugs, it's an ineffective policy for approaching drug use. All prohibition has done is make it possible for crime syndacites to control the price & purity of the illegalized drugs in the the area in which they operate, increase drug-related/gang related violence, overpopulate prisons with otherwise non-violent drug users (MJ growers in specific), and waste hundreds of billions of dollars on DEA spending which is clearly ineffective considering drugs are more widely available than ever & cheaper than ever in the history of drug prohibition.

By legalizing & regulating drugs (in a way simular to pharmaceutical companies that make sure the drug is pure & unadulturated) a more effective approach of harm reduction has been established.

I firmly beleive that the fact Marijuana has remained illegal for so long, considering its harmlessness (0 drug overdose deaths) in comparison to alcohol in tobacco which kill more people every year than every illegal drug combined & the fact that marijuana was illegalized solely on racist based ideology (in hopes that mexican immigrants would leave america after the building of the transcontinental railroad), is amazingly retarded.

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Old 01-11-2009, 11:01 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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All I will say is..
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:08 PM
 
Location: el paso tx.
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Hey and while we are at it, we can make childporn legal also just tax the hell out of it!!! I mean there is a big black market for it already so why not make it legal and make money off of it.

Now I know what come next.......
You can not compare child porn to weed.

A. It began with weed but ends with crack.
b.It began with touching but ends with rape.
c. It began with shoplifting but ends with armed robbery.
d. It began with a slap but ends with a knife to the back.

e. It began with making weed legal.



Ps. to the 30% of us that is still out there.....their crazy around here.
but dam I love the food.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:34 PM
 
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Legalized drugs only way to halt cartels - El Paso Times


I for one think it's time to do it. Prohibition has done nothing but created a black market. I say legalize it and tax the hell out of it.
I agree entirely most important of all - make AMERICAN farmers grow it, not organized crime syndicates. However, I think the main reason weed is illegal is not because of the drug but rather to prevent people from growing hemp. I am sure most people don't realize that weed has little to no death profile where as cigarettes kills nearly 400,000 annually. The main reason is because weed is a natural occurring substance where as cigarettes are laced with industrial chemicals. Hemp is basically the industrial version of weed but with less THC. Most people don't know that biodegradable paper, plastic, ethanol and clothing can be produced with hemp. There are also 20,000+ known products that can be made with it. It uses little to no pesticides, water and can grow almost anywhere in the US that supports plant vegetation. When the constitution of the USA was written it was done so on paper made from hemp. The founding fathers grew hemp in large quantities - that is how useful the plant was. It was first known domesticated plant and the Egyptians used it to make paper. That is where the invention of paper came from - HEMP. If Hemp were legalized and heavily produced the vast majority of petro chemical industries would collapse and the price of things like clothing and paper would plummet to historical lows. Even the price of housing would plummet because you can make things like boards from compressed hemp.

Read up on it: Hemp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I can't stress it enough. People need to get educated on what is really going on and why certain drugs are legal (ie. alcohol, nicotine, caffine etc.) while others aren't. 9 times out of 10 it is purely for straight profit interests and nothing more. Most people are brainwashed into believing that drugs cause violence and support crime regimes. The opposite is actually true - making drugs illegal supports violence (street gangs) and crime regimes (massive drug war in mexico). Not to mention the billions that is spent on trying stop the substance - the sheer police force needed and jailed required to house all these NON-VIOLENT drug offenders. All that money could be used to pay down the national debt, provide for better schools, or provide more health care for people. Yet we throw it down the drain. The USA is on its lag leg anyways from all these failed policies. I'll be glad when the new government comes in.

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Old 01-12-2009, 01:58 AM
 
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A. It began with weed but ends with crack.
b.It began with touching but ends with rape.
c. It began with shoplifting but ends with armed robbery.
d. It began with a slap but ends with a knife to the back.
A. Marijuana and crack are two completely different highs. The fact that you don't understand this simple fact means most of your logic is probably invalid and what we are reading here is basically fear and propaganda being regurgitated by a successfully brainwashed drone. If you want to play we could always say "everyone who started smoking crack started out drinking water" or "falling in love is bad because you might get heart broken and commit suicide or kill your ex lover".

B. Touching ends in rape? Funny, I always thought strong sexual desire and disregard for another human being ended in rape. Touching is an innocent pleasure and can be enjoyed by anyone as long as it is welcomed and appropriate. So the next time you hug one of your kids why don't we arrest you for conspiracy to commit sexual assault on a child. I know that was an ugly thing to say but I want to make sure you realize how absolutely absurd you are.

C. I used to shoplift a lot as a kid. Mostly because I didn't have respect for stores at all. That was my own stupid and flawed choice. Things never escalated for me, although what I was doing was wrong. If I ever stole something from a store again I would just feel ashamed and worthless. Shoplifting is illegal because it isn't a harmless or a victimless crime.

D. I won't even waste my time on this one.

My opinion is that marijuana should be legalized and treated like tobacco and alcohol as far as sales and driving are concerned. I don't think anyone is all about having heroin inside of 25 cent gumball machines. However Id like to see anything that has potential to hurt a person disappear. So no more big macs, no more sun, no more cars, no more whole milk, no more working late, jogging, skating, motorcycles, music, television, no more work, no more bills. I bet you could kill someone with a hammer, so no more hammers!
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Old 01-12-2009, 06:55 AM
 
Location: el paso tx.
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What I am saying is Some people began things early in it starts off very innocent but can end up being very bad for you.

I do not think making pot legal for kids to get there hands on will help our society.
Look at how many people smoking as killed.

How many times have you listen to kids say "well we were smoking a little dope and one thing lead to another"

Do I think anyone who ever does weed will become addictive? no way but I also feel that we do not need to make it on hand for just anyone to get.

I think there would be more of a want for it then most people think.

We will have to just disagree because I will never feel that making a drug legal will do anthing but harm us as a society.
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Clear Lake, Houston TX
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What I am saying is Some people began things early in it starts off very innocent but can end up being very bad for you.

I do not think making pot legal for kids to get there hands on will help our society.
Look at how many people smoking as killed.

I don't know... back in the day it was easier to get your teenage hands on this versus alcohol or cigarettes.
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