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Old 02-25-2009, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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This is a hypothetical question made to prompt discussion. It is NOT being contemplated anywhere so don't get excited. I don't even know if states could do this if they wanted to do it.

Unless they come with a job or they are retired with income, given the current state of the economy, should your state not accept any new residents until the economic crisis clears up?


Note: In this hypothetical scenario, it would not prevent people from moving around within the state nor would it prevent people from moving to the state if they were hired from out of state or if they were moving with a company that was moving to the state. It would just prevent people from moving to your state without a job or without retirement income until the US economy is out of crisis (Obama's word) mode.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:44 PM
 
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I hope we never get to being THAT fragmented.

Ultimately, we're U.S. citizens with the right to pursue happiness and prosperity on a national level, not just a state level.

If we do pull something like that, we'll deserve everything that happens as a result of it.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:53 PM
 
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I hope we never get to being THAT fragmented.
Ultimately, we're U.S. citizens with the right to pursue happiness and prosperity on a national level, not just a state level.
What happened to all the BS about "state rights"?

Another state f....s up, and here comes a bunch of mother......s to where I live because Szwartzenneger (Republican) is too stupid to fix their problems.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:17 AM
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This is a hypothetical question made to prompt discussion. It is NOT being contemplated anywhere so don't get excited. I don't even know if states could do this if they wanted to do it.

Unless they come with a job or they are retired with income, given the current state of the economy, should your state not accept any new residents until the economic crisis clears up?


Note: In this hypothetical scenario, it would not prevent people from moving around within the state nor would it prevent people from moving to the state if they were hired from out of state or if they were moving with a company that was moving to the state. It would just prevent people from moving to your state without a job or without retirement income until the US economy is out of crisis (Obama's word) mode.
There is precedence for this in other countries. Try getting into New Zealand without a job.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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May be we should start issuing state-level passports, eh?

Thanks to ideas like these, it seems the EU is more united than the USA.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:44 AM
 
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What happened to all the BS about "state rights"?

Another state f....s up, and here comes a bunch of mother......s to where I live because Szwartzenneger (Republican) is too stupid to fix their problems.
I myself don't consider "states rights" to be BS as long as they don't oppose Federal rights accorded citizens.

I would think that restricting U.S. citizen's movement from one state to another would be against Federal law.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:46 AM
 
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What would be worse is if states that are losing their middle class populations such as MI, CA and NJ made it illegal to escape for different pastures ala Cuba, China and the former Communist countries.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:50 AM
 
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Boy, that would violate all sorts of Constitutional provisions... but most prominently something called the "privileges and immunities" clause of Article IV, which makes travel between states a fundamental right, and does not permit discriminatory treatment of out-of-state residents in the area of fundamental civil rights. This isn't some newfangled judicial activist thing, either - this is how things have been since the Constitution was adopted, in theory and, more or less, in practice.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Harrisonville
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Boy, that would violate all sorts of Constitutional provisions... but most prominently something called the "privileges and immunities" clause of Article IV, which makes travel between states a fundamental right, and does not permit discriminatory treatment of out-of-state residents in the area of fundamental civil rights. This isn't some newfangled judicial activist thing, either - this is how things have been since the Constitution was adopted, in theory and, more or less, in practice.

There's also one of the so-called "structural freedoms" that have always been felt by the courts to be implicit in the Constitution while not stated outright. The gist of it is we have always been free to move about the country without having to get a travel permit or otherwise ask permission. It's important to put some value on that, as needing papers to travel very far from your home of record was generally required both by the Totalitarian systems of the Left and the Authoritarian systems of the Right.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:21 AM
 
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So we would close our state borders to fellow U.S. Citizens, but do nothing about illegal immigration?
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