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No I think he makes a point. The conservative policies have once again sent us on a tail spin and the conservatives continue to blame others for what happened on their watch. Its a joke when they had six years of majority rule to address the problem and did nothing. Now they want a voice when they have proposed the same failed policies? Yet they all over the place saying Obama is ruining the country and ignore their own actions.
I think you have confused conservatives with Republicans. They are not one in the same.
The 'conservative' forums are chock full of 'em...this site is chock full of 'em....everywhere I look there are conservatives strewn about willy-nilly.
It's a little unsettling.
Don't get me wrong I think of myself as a moderate and middle of the road type person but for representing about 50% of the public (I'm guessing) they sure do seem to have this internet thing in the bag.
Way to organize old timers!
What? The Repugs finally learn how to use the Internet, simply amazing
You mention "their policies," but which policies are you referring to as failures? Because it's very easy to point at the Community Re-Investment Act and its rewriting in the 1990s as giving rise to the legal structure that allowed this massive banking fiasco. It wasn't the Republicans who created Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and I believe it was John McCain who was publically speaking out against these crooks back in 2006. Hearing Barney Frank lash out at these bankers after researching more into his role in this fiasco sickens me, honestly. (And no, I'm not at all a McCain fan.)
It seems to me it's a lot easier to blame this on Bush without getting into any specifics about the matter. If you've got them, let's hear them. I'm not convinced. This economic mess has the sticky fingers of well-intended but left-brained liberalism all over it.
That said, Barack Obama's budget deficits over the next few years are going to dwarf anything Bush ever could have dreamed of, even with this spend-thrift ways and with all his war games.
Some conservatives really have a lot of trouble accepting personal responsibility, don't they? I said their ideologies failed, not "their policies". Get your quotes right if you're going to quote.
Sure, there were some structures in place from the Democratic days that could have been better (such as the Fannie and Freddie situation), but do you forget the CRIMINAL, clandestine behavior of the Bush administration already?
Do you recall how they pitted Americans against each other to exploit our differences rather than utilize our unity?
Do you remember being lied to about Iraq? I do because I was going to sign up for the military after 9/11. Then I started paying really close attention. LONG before WMDs became a catch phrase, the Bush administration was shopping any reason they could come up with to invade Iraq. I heard the director of communications for the White House in 2002 ramble on for five minutes without ever answering the question of why we needed to invade Iraq.
That was when I knew they were lying. The "liberal" media went right along with it and only years later - after hundreds of thousands of dead bodies - did Americans realize it for themselves.
Do you recall the deregulation of banking and natural resource extractive industries that decimated our economy and ecological health?
Do you recall politicizing the Justice Department?!? Pushing people out who disagreed ideologically with radical neocons?
Do you recall the ovewhelming evidence that the 2004 election was rigged and stolen, giving us a completely illegitimate president?
Do you recall Katrina and the friend of Bush put in charge of FEMA whose prior experience in disaster management was as the head of a horse association?!?
No. Conservatives cannot rewrite history, no matter how much they flood these forums in their attempts to do so. These were criminals who hijacked our White House and we, the collective American people, finally took it back.
No one is rewriting history except the retarded democrats trying to act like they didn't blow head first into the Iraq war until it was unpopular (something that dictates democrats policy)
Yo just don't have a long enough memory. Amazing how democrats seem to totally forget the trillions lost during the Clinton presidency i.e. dot-com. And before that? You had Carter? That's decades since you guys have any real influence on the economy. And one of the last two presidents you did have utterly destroyed. Now you wanna try again.
Do you recall the OMB office for the white house? You recall Franklin Raines who ran it for both Carter and Clinton? Do you recall who was at the helm when major accounting fraud was going on causing them to literally go through years of business and make adjustments to the tune of 6.1 billion. At the same time mentions of regulatory restructuring were underway. Well that got delayed by the fraud, not by a republic, but a democrat. You recall the years of new found deficit hawks in the democratic party? Where are they now....
We understand though what it looks like to have egg on your face. Conservatives were impotent with Bush in the office. There is some rewriting of history going on and those people seem to most forget the years 2000-2003 and 1976-1980.
And the worst lie by omission ever! The government founded Fannie and Freddie. Yup that's right out government started those programs. They left them loosely tied to our tax funds and then allowed them to be on a market. We know how quick governments work. Does that really sound like a recipe for success or stew for disaster.
Government can't and shouldn't run business. If that was on the market and such frauds were to have happened. The market would kill that out. Business evolution, why fight it or unrealistically prop it up?
Who can blame them? Look what the liberals are doing to the world we live in today. Liberals don't want to know about the best or the brightest in any field. They want to know if you're gay or black, and if you're not why are you still employed.
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The liberals have it easier because their followers are very like-minded. They're more lock-step with their party. Big government, much government spending, punish the successful and reward those who are seen as some kind of victim, abortion, and so on.
It's no wonder the Republican party is in the shape it's in with followers like these people. I'm not going to bother refuting these 'arguments', because you're just digging your own grave with all the distorting, lying and finger-pointing. Enjoy becoming nothing more than a regional party at best in a few years if you keep this up.
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Yet they all over the place saying Obama is ruining the country and ignore their own actions.
