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Old 03-08-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The link was less than 1 hour old when I posted the new thread, not from back last October.

Did I call anyone out? Nope!

Maybe if you'd read the paper instead of a blog you'd find out that the date of the aritcle was: Oct 28, 2008 2:45 pm US/Eastern
(I'm a little late to this party, if it has already be mentioned)


But why we talk to them, is so more don't join them.
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Old 03-08-2009, 02:38 PM
 
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I'm glad Obama was not around in 1938 he would would want to talk to the Nazi's.
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Old 03-08-2009, 02:39 PM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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YouTube - War in Iraq with music by Drowning Pool
the iraq war
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:08 PM
 
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I'm glad Obama was not around in 1938 he would would want to talk to the Nazi's.
Ha ha, I love the Hitler/global world war example as being analogous with a disjointed group of radicals living in caves in mountains.

So do you think several divisions of Taliban in superior state of the art military machines such as tanks that outclass the M1-Abrahms or planes that can out fly the F-22 and F-16 are going to invade eastern Europe?

Or are you just spewing a hyper inflated diatribe of red meat to a bunch of people calling for continued war that they themselves are not willing to fight?
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I'm glad Obama was not around in 1938 he would would want to talk to the Nazi's.
We did talk to the Nazis in 1938, you intellectual void.

"We" (meaning the United States) talked to the Nazis up until December 11, 1941, and would've kept talking to them had they not declared war on us.

Under what rock are these people educated...
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:51 AM
 
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Interesting opinions on subject of Afghanistan and the Taliban. Agree with the authors thoughts are not.

Afghanistan Five Years Later - The Return of the Taliban
http://www.icosgroup.net/modules/reports/Afghanistan_Five_Years_Later


Of Generals and Victories
by Patrick J. Buchanan
10/07/2008
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28896


How Empires End
by Patrick J. Buchanan
07/20/2007
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21613


Afghanistan South
by Patrick J. Buchanan
03/06/2009
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30966
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Old 03-09-2009, 01:07 AM
 
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You know.. It appears that Americans rarely learn from their own experience.

In Iraq, the U.S. branded all Sunnis as either Baathist dead-enders or al-Qaeda, we lumped all Shia as being of a singular mindset. What we found is that there are Sunnis who were Baathist (there were Shia Baathist as well) who fought in support of Hussein, some who just fought against a foreign invader, and some who recruited into the war by the heavy handed tactics of some units in the early phase of the occupation. We also discovered that there are huge differences between the Shia.

So, what do we have in Afghanistan, a complete redo of the same failed thinking. The Taliban which means nothing more than "the students" is made up by a number of Pashtun tribal groups, under the loose confederation of a number of different tribal chieftains and warlords. In short, all Pashtuns and all self-described Taliban adherents are not created equal.
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:06 AM
 
Location: West, Southwest, East & Northeast
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Obama's Call on Moderate Taliban USELESS Say Analysts
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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And the one analyst cited in the article...

Waheed Mozhdah, director of the then-Taliban Foreign Ministry's Middle East

A former Taliban member now working for the US backed Karzi government. Shocking I say, shocking!

Where is Ahmad Chalabi when you need him?
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:30 PM
 
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Some analysts cringed at the president's suggestion over the weekend that it might be time to open talks with moderate elements of the Taliban. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/09/talk-taliban-outreach-obama-makes-court-press/ - broken link)

"David Rittgers, a legal policy analyst with the Cato Institute who served three tours with the U.S. Army's Special Forces in Afghanistan, said the statement would mark the most extreme attempt so far to engage an adversary."
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