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Old 03-17-2009, 11:25 PM
 
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What a bunch of Bible-thumping lunatics.

Texas Legislation To Facilitate the Creation of An Advanced Creation Science Degree « JONATHAN TURLEY
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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We simply have no chance at going forward competing with India, Western Europe, China, Korea, and Japan with these Southern hick rednecks trying to force feed their religion into scientific pursuits and public education.

It's truly pathetic how removed from reality these people and what their priorities are.
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:52 PM
 
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I watched a snippet of TBN today, and some guy was trying to disprove the Big Bang with these fossils of fish that had bent backs.. Now that's science. Of course, I was confused until he asked for money.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:04 AM
 
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I just threw up in my mouth a bit.
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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It will be a worthless diploma and a big waste of money. What corporation is going to hire them besides the evangelicals?
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Old 03-18-2009, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It will be a worthless diploma and a big waste of money. What corporation is going to hire them besides the evangelicals?

The Republican corporation or its Pat Robertson subsidiary will snap them up.
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Old 03-18-2009, 04:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Nobody with a degree in creation science will be considered a scientist by anyone. Maybe they will create their own creation scientist industry. Good luck sustaining that.
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Old 03-18-2009, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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It's about time we actually started pulling our heads out of the sand. A perfectly ordered universe without a Creator of the order? The problem for your side is that the more we learn, the more the simple theories of random events resulting in chain reactions that continue today start to wear thin.

My Bible says "God is light". Now I see some people have created matter (a few electron and positron pairs) with electromagnetic radiation. Well, could have told you that.

"In the recent experiments at SLAC, physicists accelerated a beam of electrons to nearly the speed of light. They then aimed a split-second pulse of high-energy laser light directly at the electron beam. Occasionally a photon (a tiny, discrete unit of light energy) collided with an electron. The photon then recoiled from the collision and rebounded into oncoming photons from the laser beam with such violence that the resulting energy was converted into an electron-positron pair. Over several months of such experiments, the physicists were able to produce more than 100 electron-positron pairs."

Scientists Create Matter Out of Light - Sidebar - MSN Encarta

http://www.herbert-w-armstrong.org/M...20Theories.pdf

Evard, R. & Schrodetzki, D. --- Chemical Evolution

We can argue what happened before man was around, but the bottom line is, since none of us we here, we are either speculating or accepting someone's explanation. I just don't have that sort of faith. I like to be a little more critical in my thinking. Having learned about Bible prophesies hundreds and thousands of years old being fulfilled even to the exact day, I now know what a lot of evolutionary scientists who have defected from the orthodoxy of Darwinism have discovered. It's a dead end that requires the faithful to simply believe because no other explanation is permitted. That would be a scientific heresy. Well, that's not good enough for me. If Bible prophesies are being fulfilled at the correct times when the Prophets have been dead for centuries, that means someone knows the end from the beginning. Dismissing that requires willful disbelief.

Mathematical Bible Prophecy

I find that far more solid than speculation from someone who also wasn't there to see it. The order in the creation testifies to the Creator. Before there was a Big Bang, there was one who commanded it to be who exists independent of time.
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Old 03-18-2009, 05:20 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I don't see the big deal. There's just as much science behind global warming yet we are going to tax the energy industry into the ground with that "science".
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Old 03-18-2009, 05:31 AM
 
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Nobody with a degree in creation science will be considered a scientist by anyone. Maybe they will create their own creation scientist industry. Good luck sustaining that.

I would expect to see a lot of evolution science defectors who already have advanced degrees entering the program. Because Creationism necessarily involves religion, it has been shunned by the scientific community and unfunded by government regardless of its merits. But the truth is it takes as much or more faith to not believe in a Creator than it does to believe one exists. No matter what you believe, you have to start with a set of assumptions. When those assumptions run into a brick wall, the Darwinists have no other option except to replace the old assumptions with new ones that they will swear to with equal certainty and as though they we never wrong in the first place. If life could be created from a collection of organic chemicals in an ideal environment, we already would have done it.

"SEQUENCES - This detail is at the center of the origin of life problem. Assuming that there WAS a large supply of molecular building blocks, how do you get the specific sequences necessary in proteins and in DNA? Consider proteins: the sequence of amino acids determines the way the molecule will "fold up", which gives it physical properties. For a particular function, an exact sequence is required. What are the odds of this occurring by accident? The odds of forming a specific molecule with 100 amino acids is (1/20) ** 100 = 10e130 (the number 10 with 130 zeros following it) to 1. Forget it!"

Origin of Life: Constructing the Proteins
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