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True. The class envy rhetoric has even converted me. I now realize that those who work hard to become successful do not really deserve what they attain. Therefore, they should be willing to have the government confiscate whatever percentage of their wealth it deems proper and redistribute it to those who choose not to work hard. Furthermore, next time I need a job I plan to be hired by a poor person.
Oh, so poor and middle class people don't work hard, is that right?
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Originally Posted by malamute
I don't see any evidence of this. Look at big Hollywood celebrities who are worshipped because they're rich. Oprah is considered to be an expert on everything because she's extremely wealthy.
The Democrats pushed huge multi-billion bailouts to keep the wealthy very wealthy instead of letting corrupt banks fail. Even now they're talking about bailing out the housing industry which has been based on greed, building and selling houses far too costly for the buyers.
The current economy and the bailouts are all to keep everything that caused the problems in the first place going. The government is simply bailing out everyone for their poor decisions and corruption.
Agreed, what we're seeing now is a mass redistribution of wealth to a set of rich elites. Enjoy worshiping those who make this country more and more of an oligopoly, you idiots. As these guys are effected less by their mistakes we will be effected much much more and things will continue to get significantly worse.
True. The class envy rhetoric has even converted me. I now realize that those who work hard to become successful do not really deserve what they attain. Therefore, they should be willing to have the government confiscate whatever percentage of their wealth it deems proper and redistribute it to those who choose not to work hard. Furthermore, next time I need a job I plan to be hired by a poor person.
Actually, I thought I'd just quit working altogether and get in line with the rest of the leberals with their hands out. Why shouldn't I get my share of the plunder? They seem to be telling us that it belongs to us in the first place.
The reality is that they still will drive the economy has beyond basic work the economy is very complex now days.Envy drives alot of the maddening crowd thing . If we just looked at the number of people involved in the same behavior on smaller scales we would see that its a matter of degree in human behavior.A crook is a crook but one may only be able to steal small things but the accumulative effect is huge. Example: government programs had a estimated waste;fraud and abuse of 7% for 2008 as released by the government. If it remains the same in the stimulus that is 55 billion dollars which makes the 165 million in AIG bonuses look like spare change.
For the record, the guy doesn't even know that the author of Deuteronomy was not "anonymous", but it was Moses.
"What should we do about the rich?" Please.
Under the circumstances, perhaps he should be asking "What should we do about Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Dick Durban, and the others, who are the real culprits in this crisis. They are the architectes of what led up to the failure of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac and the whole mortgage scandal/crisis. Who is this guy kidding?
Yes, there were some unscrupulous characters that ripped off a lot of people. But those that are the focus of the most recent so-called "outrage" were simply doing their jobs, and being paid according to a contract; a contract which we know now everyone was well aware of, and the administration signed into law a bill that protected those bonuses!
But, Democrat Franklin Raines was "cooking the books" at Fannie Mae for the purpose of receiving big bonuses, and Barney Frank and the others in that bunch were also receiving "sweetheart deals" and large sums of money for their part. But who's investigating them?
This writer paints with a very broad brush. The vast majority of wealthy people did not inherit their wealth. And it wasn't "dumb luck", either.
This is nothing but your typical liberal, fomenting class envy, and stirring the pot up for the purpose of promoting the notion that capitalism is bad, and socialism is good.
He's dead wrong.
He, like so many others, seem to have forgotten that capitalism is the engine of freedom. It is what propelled this country into becoming the richest in the world with the highest standard of living in a record 200+ years. Name a socialist country that has done that. There are none.
Throwing the baby out with the bath water, and plunging us into socialism and oppression, will be to the ruination of everyone, except the elite, who will still be rich. That is the history of the world.
"The belief that the wealthy are worthy is waning"? I flatly reject his premise.
Envy...repubs projecting from their base once again....so let's pretend that everybody is envious....the uber wealthy in this country envy Third World countries that have only two classes...the wealthy and the dirt poor....and, with the help of repubs, may obtain their goal of turning the U.S. into a Third World Country..
We haven't had any restrictions on how much people can make except for union workers, airline workers and then that minimum wage law thing..
Envy...repubs projecting from their base once again....so let's pretend that everybody is envious....the uber wealthy in this country envy Third World countries that have only two classes...the wealthy and the dirt poor....and, with the help of repubs, may obtain their goal of turning the U.S. into a Third World Country..
We haven't had any restrictions on how much people can make except for union workers, airline workers and then that minimum wage law thing..
It is true that we don't YET have these restrictions.
Wealthy = work hard (Well, I guess trust fund babies do work harder at crying than the others, "Waaaaa...taxes...waaaaa.")
Poor = lazy
"Success" only applies to gaining wealth. A mother is successful only if she toils at earning a wage. Screw the kids.
I don't know where you learned this stuff, but you're wrong on all counts.
It does take work to become wealthy.
Work hard at school (college) to earn a degree.
Find a job in your field (these days, that is often very hard).
Sell yourself to your employer (by working hard and proving you are smarter than the guy in the next office who is also working hard to prove he is smarter than you are).
A promotion. Great. The cycle repeats.
Finally, after years of hard work, a VP posistion.
Years later, and much sweat still trying to prove your worth to the company, you are CEO.
Responisbility. You have stockholders. They want to see profit. They own a piece of the company. All eyes are on you. What will you do to increase profits? What will you do to improve products and production? What will you do to gain the upper hand on competition? Competition is stiff. They are trying to outdo you.
Relief. Profits look good, this year. But in order to keep up the pace, new machinery, a larger work force is required. How to pay for it?
How do we attract higher quality people? Benefits? Bonuses? Yes. Both.
There are som exceptions to this, but they still involve hard work.
I made that up, but it's very realistic. Some of it is based on my experience in the corporate world. I was never an exec.; but I worked in the marketing department of a small business (about 300 employees at the time I left)
The game of "getting ahead" is not easy. The workforce is flooded with qualified people in many fields. How does a company attract the very best? Good pay, good benfits and sometimes (eeeek!) Bonuses!!!! That dirty word!
Success, does not mean "gaining wealth". Who told you that? Some people who have no desire to be "wealthy" are "successful" They are doing what they like. They have the things they want, lacking nothing (in their opinion, which is all that matters), and they have freedom and peace of mind. They have saved enough to retire and be reasonably comfortable. That is their definition of "success".
"Poor" is realative. In America, most of the so-called "poor" own an automobile (perhaps two), have a TV, a computer, phone (even a cell phone), eat reasonably well (probably even eat at McDonald's more than some would think they should), have a steady job, and are reasonably happy.
So, define your terms.
I think you have a lot to learn about life.
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