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Old 03-21-2009, 01:45 AM
 
Location: SoCal Sewer
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Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out (http://www.congresscheck.com/2009/03/13/obama%e2%80%99s-gun-ban-list-is-out/ - broken link)
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[SIZE=3]By [/SIZE]Congress Check in Uncategorized on March 13th, 2009

[SIZE=3]Alan Korwin[/SIZE]
Infowars
March 13, 2009


[SIZE=3]Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. [/SIZE]



[SIZE=3]The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Rifles (or copies or duplicates):[/SIZE]
M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
Fabrique National FN/FAL,
FN/LAR, or FNC,
Hi-Point20Carbine,
HK-91,
HK-93,
HK-94,
HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando,
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
Saiga,
SAR-8,
SAR-4800,
SKS with detachable magazine,
SLG 95,
SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU,
Tavor,
Uzi,
Galil and Uzi Sporter,
Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity
of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

[SIZE=3]Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.[/SIZE]
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.

[SIZE=3]Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America Gun Laws of America[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Forward or send to every gun owner you know…[/SIZE]
Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!

YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!

[SIZE=3]A partial list of gun rights groups:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Gun Owners of America[/SIZE]
Gun Owners of America

[SIZE=3]Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership[/SIZE]
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership - Homepage

[SIZE=3]FREEDOM=GUNS[/SIZE]
FREEDOM=GUNS

[SIZE=3]National Rifle Association[/SIZE]
National Rifle Association - NRA Website Gateway (http://www.nra.org/ - broken link)

[SIZE=3]Second Amendment Committee[/SIZE]
Second Amendment Committee :: Welcome

[SIZE=3]Second Amendment Foundation[/SIZE]
Second Amendment Foundation Online

[SIZE=3]Second Amendment Sisters[/SIZE]
Second Amendment Sisters, Inc.

[SIZE=3]Women Against Gun Control[/SIZE]
Women Against Gun Control is a free to join group that supports the 2nd Amendment and a woman's right to protect herself.

[SIZE=3]Research related articles: [/SIZE]
  1. [SIZE=3]Proposed Law May Allow Obama AG Holder to “Ban Guns at Will”[/SIZE]
  2. [SIZE=3]Bamalot: Obama Drafts Star-Studded Short List for Cabinet[/SIZE]
  3. [SIZE=3]Terrorist Watch List Hits One Million Names[/SIZE]
__________________
www.kenaikeeper.com

"Be the change you want to see in the world." Dalai Llama




Just one more jackboot on our necks! This is getting ridiculous. These guys in office are making snap decisions that affect our DAILY lives. Spend our money here and there, large corps, themselves, give to nations that really could give a hoot or toot about USuckers.


USuckers is my new term for the U.S.!

I want to know where the modern day Son's Of Liberty are. I'm getting ready for it. Hell, I've bled on foreign soil and I am prepared to BLEED again, on American soil if that's what it takes. And just how smart are THEY. THEY that decide to TAKE AWAY MORE AND MORE OF OUR FRIGGIN RIGHTS every time they open their mouths!!

Read the CONSTITUTION, where the hell are "We The People"?
Where, fer love of Pete are ya??

It was laid out by our founding fathers, you know, the old guys in the history books with wigs and funny teeth, the ones who risked it ALL for FREEDOM! Some of the most forward thinking minds joined TOGETHER and laid down the most heroic document,,,,,,,,

ah, what the hell am I babbling on for, we're all too busy trying to provide for family's, kid's educations, better way of life YADA YADA YADA.

Where you gonna stand brothers and sisters, when the wall comes crumbling down, where you gonna stand?

I carry little reminders with me at all times, and this too,,,,,,
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Old 03-21-2009, 01:49 AM
 
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Looks to me like those are assault weapons.
What sport do you perform with assault weapons?
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Old 03-21-2009, 01:56 AM
 
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Looks to me like those are assault weapons.
What sport do you perform with assault weapons?
No. Assault weapons are selective fire. Law abiding citizens need special licenses from the Feds to even go there.

The above mentioned ones can be used for hunting, target shooting, plinking, stuff like that.

To the unknowing, some of them look like the scary ones the drug cartels get but they have less use for the listed ones. They get the "good stuff", so to speak.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
Looks to me like those are assault weapons.
What sport do you perform with assault weapons?
The sport of protecting freedom and liberty from an oppressive government. We're not their today, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that it will never be so. The second amendment doesn't exist to protect sporting or self-defense, it's the ultimate 'check and balance' on government itself.

"People should not fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:06 AM
 
Location: southern california
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enormous push to ban or greatly restrict the use of firearms. why??? 40% of homocides are puncture wounds, 911 was done with knives.
something smells bad on this one, support NRA, i know i know they are right wing but they are correct on this one.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
Looks to me like those are assault weapons.
What sport do you perform with assault weapons?
guns are not only for sport, and many of those are not assault weapons. for example, police handguns typically hold 14 rounds. They are trying to ban any handgun that can hold over 10....

And they are trying to ban any shotgun that holds over 5 shells. skeet shooting would be affected by that
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:19 AM
 
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Bang, Bang, "I'm Joe Biden" Bang, Bang.

Obama will have to take it out of my slippery hands.

Sorry Joe, Barack will try to get you head on, unsuspecting, Nancy Pelosi will come up from behind and disarm you.

And then she will blame Mexican drug imports on the America you love. Then she will sucker Congress into allowing illegal south of the border gang members solace here. After Barack releases Gitmo terrorists onto American soil, Pelosi will use taxpayer money to get them jobs.

Muhammed the bomber will be sitting right next to you at work.

Biden will have to do what he's told. Not me, not you either.

Next election ..... vote these idiots out.
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:50 AM
 
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guns are not only for sport, and many of those are not assault weapons. for example, police handguns typically hold 14 rounds. They are trying to ban any handgun that can hold over 10....

And they are trying to ban any shotgun that holds over 5 shells. skeet shooting would be affected by that
I don't understand why you're complaining about guns that can hold 10 rounds; why isn't that sufficient for your needs?

People shot skeet when they had to reload after each shot, didn't they?

In essence, they're not removing all guns, just limiting the number of rounds that you can shoot at one time. Do I have that right?

We have speed limits on our roads; I may want to drive faster but am limited for whatever reasons.

It's not denial, it's limitation, as I read it.
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Old 03-21-2009, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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[SIZE=5]Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out (http://www.congresscheck.com/2009/03/13/obama%e2%80%99s-gun-ban-list-is-out/ - broken link)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]By [/SIZE]Congress Check in Uncategorized on March 13th, 2009

[SIZE=3]Alan Korwin[/SIZE]
Infowars
March 13, 2009


[SIZE=3]Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. [/SIZE]



[SIZE=3]The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Rifles (or copies or duplicates):[/SIZE]
M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
Fabrique National FN/FAL,
FN/LAR, or FNC,
Hi-Point20Carbine,
HK-91,
HK-93,
HK-94,
HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando,
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
Saiga,
SAR-8,
SAR-4800,
SKS with detachable magazine,
SLG 95,
SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU,
Tavor,
Uzi,
Galil and Uzi Sporter,
Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity
of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.


[SIZE=3]Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.[/SIZE]
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.
[SIZE=3]Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America Gun Laws of America[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Forward or send to every gun owner you know…[/SIZE]
Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!

YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!

[SIZE=3]A partial list of gun rights groups:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]Gun Owners of America[/SIZE]
Gun Owners of America
[SIZE=3]Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership[/SIZE]
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership - Homepage
[SIZE=3]FREEDOM=GUNS[/SIZE]
FREEDOM=GUNS
[SIZE=3]National Rifle Association[/SIZE]
National Rifle Association - NRA Website Gateway (http://www.nra.org/ - broken link)
[SIZE=3]Second Amendment Committee[/SIZE]
Second Amendment Committee :: Welcome
[SIZE=3]Second Amendment Foundation[/SIZE]
Second Amendment Foundation Online
[SIZE=3]Second Amendment Sisters[/SIZE]
Second Amendment Sisters, Inc.
[SIZE=3]Women Against Gun Control[/SIZE]
Women Against Gun Control is a free to join group that supports the 2nd Amendment and a woman's right to protect herself.

[SIZE=3]Research related articles: [/SIZE]
  1. [SIZE=3]Proposed Law May Allow Obama AG Holder to “Ban Guns at Will”[/SIZE]
  2. [SIZE=3]Bamalot: Obama Drafts Star-Studded Short List for Cabinet[/SIZE]
  3. [SIZE=3]Terrorist Watch List Hits One Million Names[/SIZE]
__________________
www.kenaikeeper.com

"Be the change you want to see in the world." Dalai Llama




Just one more jackboot on our necks! This is getting ridiculous. These guys in office are making snap decisions that affect our DAILY lives. Spend our money here and there, large corps, themselves, give to nations that really could give a hoot or toot about USuckers.


USuckers is my new term for the U.S.!

I want to know where the modern day Son's Of Liberty are. I'm getting ready for it. Hell, I've bled on foreign soil and I am prepared to BLEED again, on American soil if that's what it takes. And just how smart are THEY. THEY that decide to TAKE AWAY MORE AND MORE OF OUR FRIGGIN RIGHTS every time they open their mouths!!

Read the CONSTITUTION, where the hell are "We The People"?
Where, fer love of Pete are ya??

It was laid out by our founding fathers, you know, the old guys in the history books with wigs and funny teeth, the ones who risked it ALL for FREEDOM! Some of the most forward thinking minds joined TOGETHER and laid down the most heroic document,,,,,,,,

ah, what the hell am I babbling on for, we're all too busy trying to provide for family's, kid's educations, better way of life YADA YADA YADA.

Where you gonna stand brothers and sisters, when the wall comes crumbling down, where you gonna stand?

I carry little reminders with me at all times, and this too,,,,,,


OK, I'm here with ya. M1 Carbine, are they serious? That's a deer rifle!
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Old 03-21-2009, 06:39 AM
 
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This says it all.
Suzanna Gratia-Hupp: What the Second Amendment is REALLY For
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