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View Poll Results: Should The Phrase "Faux News" Be Banned From This Site?
Yes 42 28.97%
No 100 68.97%
Don't know/undecided 3 2.07%
Voters: 145. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-06-2009, 02:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I'm talking to you....and you obviously hear me.

Why don't you explain to us how ratings are done and the statistical factors involved? It's not as simple or as skewed as your example tries to assert. Let's just look at one example...prime time slots. In your example, liberals must be watching reality network shows or CSI, while conservatives are all watching Bill O'Reilly. Your example implies that this overwhelming group of liberals are watching all these other outlets, while all the conservatives are gathered around en masse watching O'Reilly, thereby skewing the rating.
You were talking to me? It sure sounded a lot like a "personal attack" which is a violation of TOS, so I figured you must have been talking to yourself? Did you hear that?

There is absolutely no need to explain anything more about Faux New's ratings than my previous example already stated.

The logic behind it is very easy to understand for most people!

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Old 04-06-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Originally Posted by RD5050 View Post
It sure sounded a lot like a "personal attack" which is a violation of TOS
Make of it what you wish.
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by RD5050 View Post
Why are Faux News ratings so high?

It's because a huge number of Republicans are completely "obsessed" with tuning into Faux News every single day to obtain that day's Republican "talking points".

Republicans need Faux News to tell them how they should be "thinking" at that moment, and be told what their "opinions" on the issues should be for that day.

In contrast, liberals aren't "obsessed" with any particular news station, so we tune into whichever station suits us at the moment ... CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, ABC, NBC.

So the liberal audience is divided over many different news channels, and ratings of each of these channels will reflect that they only have a small subset of the total liberal audience.

For example, assume you have 100 Republicans and 100 Liberals tuning into that days news, here is how the total audience will likely be divided:

Faux News - 100 Republicans, 0 Liberals

MSNBC - 30 Liberals
CNN - 30 Liberals
PBS - 10 Liberals
CBS - 10 Liberals
NBC - 10 Liberals
ABC - 10 Liberals

So does it now make sense of why Faux News leads in the ratings?

And remember .... Faux New Rules !!!
Such a ridiculous post, I won't bother commenting.

FOX NEWS RULES
FOX NEWS RULES
FOX NEWS RULES

And MSLSD doesn't!
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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I haven't bothered to read through the previous posts, but I'd still like to throw in my two cents...

I'm a liberal; in fact, I'm very liberal by American standards as I support social democracy. I very much dislike Fox News; I consider the network to be completely lacking in objectivity and I believe that the 'journalism' that the network engages in is of very low quality.

I, however, do not like the use of the term 'Faux News.' Referring to Fox News as 'Faux News' is juvenile and is essentially an ad hominem type of attack with discredits the respectability of people using the term. It's just as bad as terms like 'Obamabots' which have been used against liberals such as myself. To me, these forums should be used for serious and respectful academic-types of debate. Using terms like 'Faux News' is neither serious nor respectful--grow up people.

At the same time, I don't necessarily support a ban of the term because of free speech and because it's a nice way of identifying people who are more interested in engaging in petty insults than in serious debate.

Finally, I'd like to note that although I am very liberal, I dislike MSNBC almost as much as Fox News. I can stomache MSNBC a bit more because I tend to agree with the points-of-view of their 'journalists' but they are not objective and their quality of journalism is also lacking.

News should be objective; different sides of the debates should be fairly aired and represented. Unfortunately, none of the networks here in the US meet my criteria for truly good 24-news and journalism. I'd argue that CNN is the most objective, though they are by no means perfect either. Their self-promotion is a bit much and some of the stories they choose to air are... well, disappointing. Also, they have Lou Dobbs who is every bit as bad as O'Reilly, Olbermann, Limbaugh, Chris Matthews and the rest of their ilk. However, CNN also has David Gergen (best 'pundit' on TV!), Anderson Cooper, Larry King (old, a bit corny but still respectable) and others worth watching...
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:03 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Such a ridiculous post, I won't bother commenting.

FOX NEWS RULES
FOX NEWS RULES
FOX NEWS RULES

And MSLSD doesn't!
And speaking of people being "obsessed" with Faux News ....
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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While I don't think they should be banned, I find the nicknames such as Faux News, Nobama, McSame, or any else of the sort (regardless of party affiliation) to be annoying and highly immature. It's not clever and it's not funny. It is akin to our society attaching the suffix 'gate' to any scandal involving government officials or any other high profile individuals. If we can't tell by the content of your post that you dislike Fox, Obama, etc., then you're writing/communication skills suffer from a serious deficiency, and instead of trying to be cutesy, you should be studying proper use of the English language.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:37 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
I've must have seen the tired, old and worn-out phrase "Faux News" on this board a hundred times.

So, vote here, should use of that word be banned on this site or should it be allowed, along with MS"LSD" and ClintonNewsNetwork?
It's really pretty silly; because, in the first place the word faux is pronounced like "foe", not "fox". Secondly, Fox News carries more accurate, honest reporting and better coverage than any of the other news channels. That's why they are the number one news channel, and have been for years.

Some stories don't even get carried on other channels (at least not until Fox has already covered them — then, I guess they figure they have to).

There is no one even close to Neal Cavuto on any other network. He asks the hard questions and really pins people down. The other networks always "softball" everyone (unless, of course, they are talking to a Republican conservative).

There is also no one on any other channel that can touch Judge Andrew Napolitano either for his insight into all things legal, and his constitutiona expertise.

I was also glad to see them pick up Glenn Beck, another one who asks the hard questions no one on the other networks ask.

Of course the Fox bashers always mention the Fox news ladies, and call them names, like "bimbos', etc. The bashers are nothing but bullies, just like the playground bullies from childhood. They haven't grown up.

But, the Fox News women are professional, bright (even brilliant), highly skilled reporters and anchors. If you want to watch a real bimbo, go watch Katie Couric, the over-rated anchor on whatever the other network is that she's on now (CBS?)

Is it any wonder that our country is in the state that it's in, when for years we have had networks like CBS, NBC, ABC, and MSNBC, all sycophants of the Democrat Party, simply feeding us Democrat talking points, with absolutely no honesty or objectivity whatsoever? Is it any wonder that this is so, since so many former Democrat Party operatives wind up working for these networks after they have left the active political areana? Many of these people once worked for Democrat candidates for public office, Democrat Congressmen and Senators, and in other posts within the Democrat Party.

Fair and balanced? Much more so than any other channel.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:39 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
No more than Obamination, Obots, etc. should be banned.
Have a problem with free speech these days?

Might want to look up the word faux, it fits (even if it is French).
How does it "fit"? Can you give some examples?
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Old 04-07-2009, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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well guess it takes a mentality to hear slanted stories otherwise its hard to justify supporting the worst president in history.

Im sure Faux News will attempt to blame Obama for the economy. accuracy is of no importance to them. I'm reallty at a loss to understand why Reps support a Billionaire Australian's view of the world.... seems they would at least want the view of a real American .... John Birtch doesn't have a news program i guess?
Guess Jerry Falwell died. thought it seemed like there was less religion in the presidential race. The KKK news might be too obvious... no wait they gave to Obama's campaign... wow guess they have to go abroad to find an opinion they can recite... faux or not.
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:20 AM
 
Location: 95468
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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
It's been used for at least a decade.
Accurate descriptions seem to stick.
So do boogers like faux news.
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