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They should allow the people of California to use the money they were able to bring to their economy for their economy. The people flock to where money is and cost of living will increase naturally and spread. "The people vote with their feet." But by taking money and redirecting it elsewhere you destroy the economic momentum and sustainability.
Well, as a Californian (how many of you people actually come from Cali?) I can say that we're wasting a lot more money from our tax dollars going to fund multiple wars we don't agree with while paying to subsidize people in other states. Let California keep its federal tax dollars and it would be in a perfect financial situation...it's the FEDERAL waste (mostly in the DoD) that has caused this country to collapse, not state waste. San Francisco is not going bankrupt and it's the most liberal city in America. Orange County, however, went bankrupt during a much better economic climate and it's a VERY conservative county.
If we're talking about the economy and not mentioning the FEDERAL WASTE, this is a pointless debate.
Couldn't tell you the last time I broke a lightbulb. I buy them for light, not to smash on the floor. Corporate goons and your electric company have scared you into not buying them.
Wow... what a foolish comment. Do you even think about where everyone's trash goes? Sorry to break it to you but it doesn't go to "garbage land" where rubbish just mystically disappears. Why don't you look up what your inefficient and toxic CFL bulbs are comprised of.
Well, as a Californian (how many of you people actually come from Cali?)
I do.
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I can say that we're wasting a lot more money from our tax dollars going to fund multiple wars we don't agree with while paying to subsidize people in other states. Let California keep its federal tax dollars and it would be in a perfect financial situation...
Really? Then why is the STATE bankrupt? You could make a case that individuals are having to spend too much for things you don't agree with via Federal taxes, but the state has its own economy - the California state government doesn't pay taxes to the Federal government.
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...multiple wars we don't agree with...
Speak for yourself only, please. There's a lot of California outside San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego, and most of the people in the rest of the state have very different views about a lot of things. If you really need proof, look back a few months at what happened re: Prop 8.
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San Francisco is not going bankrupt and it's the most liberal city in America. Orange County, however, went bankrupt during a much better economic climate and it's a VERY conservative county.
Apples and (California) Oranges. Implying that the political leanings of the residents of these two areas have anything to do with their financial situations is wholly dishonest, and you (should) know it.
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If we're talking about the economy and not mentioning the FEDERAL WASTE, this is a pointless debate.
No, it isn't, because how the STATE spends its money has NOTHING to do with how the Feds spend theirs.
Your location says "Las Vegas" so you're not in California or you're lying about your location...
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Really? Then why is the STATE bankrupt? You could make a case that individuals are having to spend too much for things you don't agree with via Federal taxes, but the state has its own economy - the California state government doesn't pay taxes to the Federal government.
It's GOING bankrupt and so are about 22 other states.
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Speak for yourself only, please. There's a lot of California outside San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego, and most of the people in the rest of the state have very different views about a lot of things. If you really need proof, look back a few months at what happened re: Prop 8.
The people of California have proven that they are against the war by overwhelmingly voting for people who do not support the war.
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Apples and (California) Oranges. Implying that the political leanings of the residents of these two areas have anything to do with their financial situations is wholly dishonest, and you (should) know it.
I know, my whole point was that the people saying that "Liberal politics" have led to this issue is not just dishonest, it's simply wrong. My point was to show that you cannot blam "Liberal Politics" for the economic crisis, especially since California has a Republican governor and plenty of conservative and liberal regions in just as much trouble as one another. That's why I mentioned Orange County and San Francisco.
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No, it isn't, because how the STATE spends its money has NOTHING to do with how the Feds spend theirs.
But when the state sends more money to the federal government than any other state, it cuts into the economy and we need to reduce Federal Spending for any state to have a chance at recovery.
California has allowed refrendum government to cut taxes and increase spending with out Rayguns ability to continously borrow instead of tax. No wonder you are giong broke.
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Hippie Justice.... Keep doing it even if it's failed over and over and over... I got a good idea add more government that'll solve it. And the more the planners plan...
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