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You must be high because I've participated (as you know) in three specific threads where you and others have defended easing gun regulations or getting rid of all regulations
Really? Then it should be easy for you to prove what you just said. As a self-proclaimed FLEO, I'm sure you understand the concept of "burden of proof."
I'll be waiting for you to post links to the posts in which I suggested eliminating all restrictions on gun ownership. Don't disappear from this thread like you tend to do when you fall too far behind in a debate - I'm going to hold you to either proving your allegation or admitting that you were lying, or at least wrong.
I've noticed a bunch of posts on here about gun rights and fears that the Obama administration will take away the right to own a gun. However, as the court ruled in Heller v DC last year, the right to own guns is an individual right that cannot be taken away by any government. If you recall, DC had a total ban on guns and that was ruled to be unconstitutional. Given that gun rights advocates have won at the ultimate level, I wonder why there is still so much energy around this issue. For the most part, it's been decided.
Is there a real fear that gun will be taken away or is it that folks don't want ANY regulation of gun ownership (background checks, waiting periods, ban on automatic weapons, etc.). I'm just trying to understand why this issue isn't waning given the Supreme Court's ruling.
You ask a good question. My guess is that people may be afraid that other restrictions that they don't agree with may be put in place that haven't been challenged in court yet. They may also be afraid of a change in the courts bringing about a different decision in other cases. This situation mimics the Roe v Wade discussions in that respect.
To answer the OP,Because we only won for now.Look at a couple posters on CD who have claimed that firearm ownership is not a right but just a privilage.Infest the public with bombardment of that thought and they start being swayed.
Which is why I will continue to debate and engage and hopefully make people think of their rights as a citizen not privilages as a subject.I will use my every breath and keystroke to continue........
Which I'm starting to notice lately what seems a coordinated effort between the media,certain politicians and certain active dedicated DNC posters here with constant articles and questions about the need of guns....hmmm?Maybe testing the water?This isn't the 90's anymore when Clinton and congress had their liberal moment when them,the media and Hollywood made a strategy to propagandize their push for bans.
The internet is everywhere now,the mainstream media and Hollywood no longer have a stranglehold on "truth",and since the Clinton era gunownership has exploded and become even more mainstream popular than ever before.
Demonizing gun owners ,guns and even the NRA with lies won't work anymore,the anti gun crowd no longer have the sole voice in public.The fact that there was a huge rush on gun buying specially so called "assault weapons" after Obama's election should tell the DNC something......
To answer the OP,Because we only won for now.Look at a couple posters on CD who have claimed that firearm ownership is not a right but just a privilage.Infest the public with bombardment of that thought and they start being swayed.
Again, this makes no sense to me... it doesn't matter what the public thinks. For example, I'm pro-choice. The law is clear in this regard... I don't care that there are a lot of people calling for the overturn of Roe v Wade... unless there is a real threat from the Supreme Court or states attempting to amend the Constitution, who cares? It's as if there must be an enemy... I submit to you that this may be coordinated from those who stand to gain from such a feeling of constant victimization...
Again, this makes no sense to me... it doesn't matter what the public thinks. For example, I'm pro-choice. The law is clear in this regard... I don't care that there are a lot of people calling for the overturn of Roe v Wade... unless there is a real threat from the Supreme Court or states attempting to amend the Constitution, who cares? It's as if there must be an enemy... I submit to you that this may be coordinated from those who stand to gain from such a feeling of constant victimization...
The law is never absolute.Public opinion can change.New generations can be schooled to a alternative "truth".Tell a lie enough and it can become "truth".Freedom is never fully secured,it takes care and constant reminder.I have seen a few comments over time that the "Consititution is outdated".I translate that comment into "freedom is outdated".
Judges are human with prejudices also,I have little doubt that Clinton or Gore appointed judges would have voted the 2nd amendment is not a individual right.Despite the ruling that it is a indididual right,the DNC and Obama still made part of their platform the wish to reinstate bans and restrictions,so despite the law being clear so says the court,it didn't stop them did it?What stopped them for now was public show that they (most) don't want bans.The Dems have not introduced a real effort (yet) because they value being re-elected more than pushing a segment of their agenda that might jeopordize it.
You must be high because I've participated (as you know) in three specific threads where you and others have defended easing gun regulations or getting rid of all regulations
Total falshood. Lol, I do believe we disagree as to adding NEW restrictions, but nobody said a THING about doing away with existing laws. The fact that such restrictions as you advocate, already exist has been brought up, but no body said anything about abolishing or easing them. Best not get into any more of that nifty stuff in the evidence locker pard. The stuff in the little baggys.
Therein lies the crux of this thread. Obama or no, hoplophobic politicians keep trying to create ne laws and restrictions on firearms ownership that are not needed and draconian. Such regulations as they are beating the drum for will only effect the law abiding citizen. An outright ban they can't get, so they chip away little by little. Thats why we gun rights advocates keep up the fight. It's not setlled by a long shot, Heller or not, SCOTUS decision or not.
Total falshood. Lol, I do believe we disagree as to adding NEW restrictions, but nobody said a THING about doing away with existing laws. The fact that such restrictions as you advocate, already exist has been brought up, but no body said anything about abolishing or easing them. Best not get into any more of that nifty stuff in the evidence locker pard. The stuff in the little baggys.
Therein lies the crux of this thread. Obama or no, hoplophobic politicians keep trying to create ne laws and restrictions on firearms ownership that are not needed and draconian. Such regulations as they are beating the drum for will only effect the law abiding citizen. An outright ban they can't get, so they chip away little by little. Thats why we gun rights advocates keep up the fight. It's not setlled by a long shot, Heller or not, SCOTUS decision or not.
If its a non-issue why do gun control advocates continue to float or discuss legislation of a ban? Why did Pelosi just two days ago talk about needed gun control? When was the last legislation to circumvent Roe v. Wade introduced in Congress?
Again, this makes no sense to me... it doesn't matter what the public thinks. For example, I'm pro-choice. The law is clear in this regard... I don't care that there are a lot of people calling for the overturn of Roe v Wade... unless there is a real threat from the Supreme Court or states attempting to amend the Constitution, who cares? It's as if there must be an enemy... I submit to you that this may be coordinated from those who stand to gain from such a feeling of constant victimization...
I've seen numerous threads from the left linking mental illness with guns as if they're natural companions. Dems have traditionally had the opinion of when in doubt, regulate some more, use Jim Brady and Carolyn McCarthy to sell legislation. Obamas position prior to election was party line toned down anti gun, and I counted on the supreme court to hold up what was true.
I'm center and I voted for Obama in great measure because of his resume-- professor of constitution. It felt like he was my only chance to get the country back in line with the constitution. I voted for Obama because he was supposed to shut that open door of unlimited executive power that he pointed at, knowing how dangerous it was. He hasn't shut that door. He's used the opportunity to push agendas that are against the will of the people. I'm not willing to sit obediently the way I did post 911 when the abuses began. I was wrong to keep quiet when the left was screaming their heads off. I never should have done it. I'll never do it again.
This time the right is screaming their heads off so to speak. Some of it is media warping, but much of it is real when you look at the executive power door that has yet to be closed. The media warping is coming from both sides, I do acknowlege that, but... close the door. He hasn't. He expanded his own power with this latest internet legislation. Heller case is closed and 5 minutes from now 12 more will get invented coming from every concievable angle.
This country more than anything else needs unity by putting the constitution on the top shelf where it belongs. With our POTUS or without him, we need to stick together, the tie that binds us all, if we're going to make it through this mess. His failure to uphold it as Bush did is a negation of his oath. Bush belongs in jail and dems did nothing. I don't feel either party is trustworthy anymore if they're no longer in service to the constitution.
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. Best not get into any more of that nifty stuff in the evidence locker pard. The stuff in the little baggys.
