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View Poll Results: How have gay-related controversies (Perez Hilton, same-sex marriage) changed your opinions about gay
They've given me a less favorable opinion of gays overall. 29 34.94%
They've given me a more favorable opinion of gays overall. 8 9.64%
The controversies haven't changed my opinions about gays, for better or for worse. 46 55.42%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-27-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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No, but I'm just one individual. You never how what effect your words may have on others.

Also, I was only joking.
I'm joking too
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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It's not that simple. Sexual orientation is a core part of who we are, and it affects a lot of how we're treated and how we treat others.

No one knows your religion unless you tell them, but we have laws against discrimination based on religion. Furthermore, people definitely choose their religion. Most people agree that we don't choose our sexual orientation.
Some people wear clothing based on their religious practices. So you would be able to discriminate against them.

Some people choose their religion - in the United States because we have freedom of religion, however in the USA Jews and Muslims by and large do not.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:15 PM
 
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That would totally screw up the whole evolution theory...Are you saying they evolved to be gay and contribute nothing useful to our race?

They should be studied and treated.
Oh, good lord.

If "contributing something useful to our race" is only composed of having babies, then you must love single parents who have as many babies as they can and then become dependent on government welfare.

You must also believe that men who are sterile and women who can't conceive are contributing nothing too.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:17 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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yes, doing it after the fact was pointless. they sounded like sore losers.

they should have mobilized before.

shwarzenegger was against the prop. they didnt use him the way they should have.

i do agree with certain tactics tho.

but when people dont like something, any little show of visibility (physical or otherwise) is more examples of "those" people acting out.

like when people complain about gays, "why do gays have to shove their sexuality in our face", when in fact all they are doing is holding hands like any caring loving couple would do.

a lot of it is perception.

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Nah, I agree with JTraik. Screaming and protesting after the passage of Prop. 8 was mostly a waste of time, in my opinion. Most of this will be resolved peacefully in the courts, and that's the way it should be. Having public temper tantrums and making people angry does nothing to further the cause.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:17 PM
 
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they might be evolutionary population control...
Or meant to play supporting roles in a family.

The research says that the more boys a women has, the greater his chances of being gay. This could be a form of population control, or it could be nature's way of providing an extra assistant to his hetero siblings who will likely have children.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:19 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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Oh, good lord.

If "contributing something useful to our race" is only composed of having babies, then you must love single parents who have as many babies as they can and then become dependent on government welfare.

You must also believe that men who are sterile and women who can't conceive are contributing nothing too.
Well looking at it from the point of population. I think at least replacing yourself is something people should do.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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How much effort does a homosexual have to put forth in order to conceal his or her "gayness" on a daily basis? Repressing feminine tendencies if you're a guy? Repressing "masculine" tendencies if you're a female? Otherwise how would anyone know what you were if you didn't dress the part or affect an air of the opposite sex? It's all smoke and mirrors for some very confused minds.
No, people are what they are. There have always been effeminate men and masculine women. Some of them are even heterosexual.

I think you'd like gays to just go away. You may want to find a new coping strategy, because that's not going to happen.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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I'm joking too
Oh, okay. Well then, yeah, I was seriously turned on by your comments.

(Not really. Again, joking. )
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Your flirting is uncalled for. Try to be professional. I don't date hippies.
I was pointing out the irony of someone who is a homophobe calling out in a thread title, "Where Are the Black Gay Men?".

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Old 04-27-2009, 04:25 PM
 
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Some people wear clothing based on their religious practices. So you would be able to discriminate against them.
Your statement is incongruent with your previous argument. You said that gays can easily hide their sexual orientation. Religious people can easily hide who they are too by simply not wearing clothing that indicates their religion.

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Some people choose their religion - in the United States because we have freedom of religion, however in the USA Jews and Muslims by and large do not.
That has nothing to do with the point that everyone has a right to choose his or her religion, and there is still legal protection that protects them from discrimination.
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