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Well, that 55-61% ought to try to make it legal if they think that it's justified, but that doesn't change the fact that it wasn't and isn't. A popular crime is still a crime.
Clearly, the torture didn't produce much, if anything, in the way of "actionable intelligence." If it did, Bush and Cheney would have beeen trumpeting the news. So, in that sense of providing vital information, then no - the torture was NOT justified.
As far as an investigation, I say yes, it definitely needs to be looked into. Our entire society is based on the principle that we are a nation of laws. But i say no harsh sentences should be handed down even to guilty parties, if any. Public censure should suffice.
If the Bush party isn't the biggest bunch of hypocrites,then I don't know who really is! Last time I looked our government was based around the fact that we would not use CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT to all and the Geneva Convention deals with treatment of prisoners too.Are we some third world nation? Just another lie or hidden agenda of Bush and his cronies.I hope they prosecute him and all his cronies including Cheney and Rumsfeld.They are all a disgrace to this country!
If the Bush party isn't the biggest bunch of hypocrites,then I don't know who really is! Last time I looked our government was based around the fact that we would not use CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT to all and the Geneva Convention deals with treatment of prisoners too.Are we some third world nation? Just another lie or hidden agenda of Bush and his cronies.I hope they prosecute him and all his cronies including Cheney and Rumsfeld.They are all a disgrace to this country!
The problem was, since we were attacked by people who do not have a country or nation, the bush cronies thought that the Geneva Convention "did not apply" to fighting a "war on terra-ism", therefore, the past administration twisted and warped and bent to rules to their own making. Even the rules of engagement were twisted to "preemtive strikes" to bomb a soverign nation if they "suspected" that the country or nation meant to do harm to the United States.
If anyone remembers, and I know most of us Americans have a short memory, Bush ran on the platform of, and often proclaimed that "I am a war president" his exact words. Bearing this in mind, it is little wonder why when he went around the world and rubbed other nations and countries the wrong way, people just didn't like his big 6 gun texan cowboy attitude.
61% think interrogations are justified? maybe so, but, torturous interrogations? I don't think anyone approves of that method. And, we all know why, it is because if our people are captured by an enemy, our people can be tortured too, and they have.
If you torture someone, they'll tell you garbage which isn't necessarily true, just to stay alive or survive. In short, harsh interrogations or torturing people just doesn't work.
Clearly, the torture didn't produce much, if anything, in the way of "actionable intelligence." If it did, Bush and Cheney would have beeen trumpeting the news. So, in that sense of providing vital information, then no - the torture was NOT justified.
The memos claim otherwise - before enhanced interrogations, nobody was talking - after, they talked and gave up valuable information that prevented attacks, saved lives and led to the capture/death of other bad guys.
I know how that just burns your A** - but it is what it is.
The memos claim otherwise - before enhanced interrogations, nobody was talking - after, they talked and gave up valuable information that prevented attacks, saved lives and led to the capture/death of other bad guys.
I know how that just burns your A** - but it is what it is.
What memos are you reading?
Zab was talking beforehand and gave up significant information. He clammed up after being waterboarded.
KSM was caught in March, and in March was waterboarded 183 times. Plus subjected to sleep deprivation and other harsh interrogation techniques. He gave us good information and bad information (the kind we wasted years and manpower trying to follow up) as a result of these "techniques", but as of yet we are not privy to the details of the value of the information.
Please don't go into the LA 9/11 plot. President Bush is on record saying that plot was foiled in 2002 because of SE Asian intelligence work. KSM wasn't arrested until 2003.
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Poll; 61% think harsh interrogations justified .......
