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Old 05-13-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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This post has nothing to do w/the thread, just another excuse to get in an Obama bash.

lol, yea this is starting to get annoying. If you look on the comment section of new articles they are just full of sarcastic comments bashing the right or the left; so much so I think that are computer generated to cause conflict.

Anyhow, when will people learn that the upper echelons of the right and Left have the same allegiance which is why we always get screwed.

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Old 05-13-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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Let's see here.....the thread is about people who live an unhealthy lifestyle complaining about not having healthcare.


And here we have your post, running at the mouth about Obama. Sorry, I just don't see the correlation here...you do?? I wish I got paid per post on here, that'd be sweet!

I am "running at the mouth" because I said Obama could set up a program for people who couldn't afford insurance? Hmmm? Running at the mouth??? You are claminging that because you don't agree with me???I think that would go under the category of personal attacks.

WHY do liberals ATTACK if someone says something that they don't agree with?

You wish you got paid to post? LOL yeah, that is a career goal to work for! ROFL!
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:51 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I am "running at the mouth" because I said Obama could set up a program for people who couldn't afford insurance? Hmmm? Running at the mouth??? You are claminging that because you don't agree with me???I think that would go under the category of personal attacks.

WHY do liberals ATTACK if someone says something that they don't agree with?

You wish you got paid to post? LOL yeah, that is a career goal to work for! ROFL!
Why is it that whenever someone disagrees, it's considered a personal attack? I don't get that, I'm not calling you names yet you're accusing me of attacking you. You don't see how you slipped in an attack against Obama in a thread that has nothing to do w/him or even the government? It's about people's lifestyles & having insurance. Surely even you can see that. Actually, that could in a sense be considered hijacking a thread, a TOS violation. But unlike some, I'm not going to get all up in arms about it. Apparently, you also don't understand sarcasm. Yeah, I wish I could work full-time for CD & get paid for it, yes ma'am that's what I'm striving my life to be, you hit the nail on the head, bravo!!! Oh wait, perhaps I should start crying that your last sentence was an attack on me.

PS-I deleted that comment on my post if that makes you feel any better.
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Old 05-14-2009, 12:19 AM
 
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And the school tax? Parents benefiting from having kids?

You benefit indirectly from an educated society. As far as children, my guess is the money is spent right back into the economy for bottles, clothes, food etc...
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Since I've become a medical tourist, who needs the insurance? I live close enough to the Mexican Border where I get all my health care needs met and it's all been superior quality and costs far less, per year, than a thousand dollar deductible from BCBS.

And I also get medical treatment and dental work in Central America. I plan to retire even closer to the Border (Tucson) then it's just a 60 mile trip to all my medical care.

Last edited by tijlover; 05-14-2009 at 01:32 AM.. Reason: rephrasing
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Boise
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Since I've become a medical tourist, who needs the insurance? I live close enough to the Mexican Border where I get all my health care needs met and it's all been superior quality and costs far less, per year, than a thousand dollar deductible from BCBS.

And I also get medical treatment and dental work in Central America. I plan to retire even closer to the Border (Tucson) then it's just a 60 mile trip to all my medical care.
I have heard this as well, my partner's parents and his younger siblings go to mexico to get their dental work done, it's fractions less, and many of the dentists have licenses and offices in america as well. What a difference a border makes huh? just the price...

The healthcare industry is a cartel that is bankrupting our government and the companies we work for...
it's rotten to the core...
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:39 AM
 
Location: The Beach
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"Ask not, what your country can do for you. Ask what, you can do for your country."- JFK


This includes health care as well as welfare, food stamps and things of the like. If you want health insurance pay for it like everyone else does and stop crying to the government every time you can't get something, you think "you have a right" to have. Should've thought twice before dropping out of school or having six kids. The very poor people in the US have a better quality of life than poor people in other countries.

You can't expect the government to do everything for you. What happened to the American spirit and that patriotism that was second to none?
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Last night on the news I heard the phrase "end of days" used for the first time while discussing Obama's health overhaul. I suppose if you are elderly and your time on this planet is now used up, you should be refused any and all life supporting drugs and care. My concern is who will decide at what age you are no longer of use? Will this "age" be moved downward to say 55 to offset the costs of care in the country, much like SS benifits will be continually moved outward to offset the rising costs? So, say you have HIV and you are 45, will this class of people be considered "too costly" and be placed on the end of days calendar. Or, what if God forbid, you have a baby with Downs syndrom, or MS, or some other affliction and they will now be considered too costly for care, since they are not contributors to this new changing world. We play with fire.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Last night on the news I heard the phrase "end of days" used for the first time while discussing Obama's health overhaul. I suppose if you are elderly and your time on this planet is now used up, you should be refused any and all life supporting drugs and care. My concern is who will decide at what age you are no longer of use? Will this "age" be moved downward to say 55 to offset the costs of care in the country, much like SS benifits will be continually moved outward to offset the rising costs? So, say you have HIV and you are 45, will this class of people be considered "too costly" and be placed on the end of days calendar. Or, what if God forbid, you have a baby with Downs syndrom, or MS, or some other affliction and they will now be considered too costly for care, since they are not contributors to this new changing world. We play with fire.
The goverment does not have money..they get money from us the tax payer. They will not have enough money to cover all of the above. So our health care will have to be rationed. The goverment will have to pick and choose who will get care.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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I feel the same way about taxes for roads that people don't use if they don't drive a car, taxes for schools for people who don't even have children. It also steams me that people who have kids get more money back from the government.
I agree 100% about the school thing. Here in TX we pay a school tax and it is pretty expensive. Lets just say last year we paid about 6K in school taxes and have no kids.

I can think of 6K other things I could have used that money for.

Nice huh?
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