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Old 05-23-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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OMG! LMAO. Are you really that naive?
That is how its done, ask any police officer who has to interrogate a suspected suspect.. Are you that ignorant or are you 10?
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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If Obama was using torture on anyone, I would support every effort
You had right up to here. After that, we part ways.
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:45 AM
 
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If Obama was using torture on anyone, I would support every effort and work hard to see that Obama would be charged and indicted for such a crime, and would DEFINITELY want to see him on trial for the same. You do the crime, then you do the time and receive the punishment. When it comes to torture, I'm an equal-opportunity believer in accountability.
Further proof that liberals hear something they want to believe and non stop repeat it EVERYWHERE making them look just foolish..

WHAT CRIME?
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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Sorry but I dont lose, you do..

She was found guilty of violating a military code of conduct and was court martialed, not violating "torture" laws..

Again, your jumping from one subject to the other to try to make an argument without understanding (or complete ignorance) of issues.
She was guilty and she was used as a scapgoat. She and the other guys were the "token" prosecutions to distract the public from the people who gave the authorizations, as we have now come to find out.

How's your boy Cheney doing these days? Why do the Republicans, such as John McCain, seem to be distancing as far as they can from him?

Mr. Dark Dick Cheney, the "shadow President" who is totally morally bankrupt and a total liar. Actually, one might even think the guy is a bit saddistic considering how much he supports torturing people. Hmmmm, wonder if he was provided with videos of the "enhanced interrogations"? Maybe he enjoyed the "movies."
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:48 AM
 
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You had right up to here. After that, we part ways.
Why? What would you want to see happen to Obama if he were using and authorizing torture of other human beings? Would you like to have a President who used terrorists as role models?
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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It's still not torture. This guy is a radio host that's probably never experienced anything more miserable than being caught in rush hour.

Yeah....it sucks....bad, but he's fine, is he not? Our SEALS have it done to them in training so they know that to expect. But they recover instantly, do they not?

Torture is not being made uncomfortable, being scared or THINKING you might die. Torture is being savagely beaten. Torture is being physically abused, where you don't recover.

If this doesn't work or help protect our country, then release the memos and prove it. If the memos show proof that it doesn't work, I'll be the first to jump off the bandwagon.

But they're not going to, because that wouldn't help their cause. I'm for whatever keeps my family and this country safe.
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:53 AM
 
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Further proof that liberals hear something they want to believe and non stop repeat it EVERYWHERE making them look just foolish..

WHAT CRIME?
LMAO. You are so biased that you cannot even deal with it when a liberal is consistent. If torture is not a crime, then why is it that our law enforcement agencies in this country are not allowed to torture inmates?

Ever heard of lawsuits being filed against law enforcement officers for going "over the line"? So tell me, if torture is legal, then why isn't it used in murder cases and other violent crimes.........like gang violence? Surely "gangs" have been known to be very violent and participate in murders, so why don't we torture gang members who have been arrested so that "we" can find out what their future plans are, and who are all the gang members, and where they live, in order to protect the citizens of various cities in our country?
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:02 AM
 
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LMAO. You are so biased that you cannot even deal with it when a liberal is consistent. If torture is not a crime, then why is it that our law enforcement agencies in this country are not allowed to torture inmates?

Ever heard of lawsuits being filed against law enforcement officers for going "over the line"? So tell me, if torture is legal, then why isn't it used in murder cases and other violent crimes.........like gang violence? Surely "gangs" have been known to be very violent and participate in murders, so why don't we torture gang members who have been arrested so that "we" can find out what their future plans are, and who are all the gang members, and where they live, in order to protect the citizens of various cities in our country?
Isn't funny how torture is all of a sudden legal and good? It's also funny how the right will dismiss what people who have been tortured like John McCain say on the matter. They'll instead tear him, an Ex-Navy Seal and a General down while claiming they're partiots that believe in our troops and the constitution. I hope they'll say how great torture is to the face of the next American Citizen or Soldier who has to endure it.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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Do you care to step up to the plate to experience the difference between first and second degree murder?
Actually, I'd be interested in hearing your explanation between the two, and how it relates to torture. In detail, please.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:07 AM
 
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Isn't funny how torture is all of a sudden legal and good? It's also funny how the right will dismiss what people who have been tortured like John McCain say on the matter. They'll instead tear him, an Ex-Navy Seal and a General down while claiming they're partiots that believe in our troops and the constitution. I hope they'll say how great torture is to the face of the next American Citizen or Soldier who has to endure it.
I'm starting to think that it's possible that many of those folks who support torture just may be a bit sadistic, too, like our former "President" Dick Cheney seems to be.
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