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Old 06-03-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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Not prejudice....I lived amongst them and many, actually the largest group doesn't want to try to learn the language of the country they are living in, want woman to be treated as they do in the muslim countries, but want to get the best from the western world...

Look at the Netherlands, there are over 400 mosques and in many of them is hate preaching what is going on... The country is so small you can drive from East to West in 3.5 hours and from North to South in 4.5 hours.
Over 1 million muslims (legal) and 15 million other people...than you have almost the same amount illegal muslims and there are many muslim schools, which is perfectly okay if it wasn't that they received government money and no it is clear that many have been using the money to support Hamas and other terrorist organisations....you have to live there to see what is going on. Of course there are many great muslims who want nothing more than to intergrate in society but unfortunately it is the minority!
America's Muslims Aren't as Assimilated as You Think

So runs the comforting media narrative that has developed around the approximately 6 million Muslims in the United States, who are often portrayed as well-assimilated and willing to leave their religion and culture behind in pursuit of American values and lifestyle.
A new generation of American Muslims -- living in the shadow of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks -- is becoming more religious. They are more likely to take comfort in their own communities, and less likely to embrace the nation's fabled melting pot of shared values and common culture.
Ismahan recalled similar experiences. In elementary school, she had tried to fit in. As an adult, though, "I know I don't have to fit in," she said.

"I don't think Muslims have to assimilate. We are not treated like Americans.

At work, I get up from my desk and go to pray. I thought I would face opposition from my boss.

Even before I realized he didn't mind, I thought, 'I have a right to be a Muslim, and I don't have to assimilate.' "

America's Muslims Aren't as Assimilated as You Think
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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As ABC's Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller astutely outline here, the Obama administration is embracing the new president's inner Muslim, as it were. Deputy national security adviser stated that Obama had "experienced Islam on three continents...growing up in Indonesia, having a Muslim father -- obviously Muslim Americans [are] a key part of Illinois and Chicago".

So that's once, twice, three times a Muslim?

Just in case the Arab world hasn't yet got this message of inbuilt tolerance, Mr Obama himself has gone a step further.
In an interview with France's Canal Plus released on Tuesday evening, he suggested that the United States might be a Muslim country.

This is just a small piece of an article which you can read in full by clicking on the link.

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separation of church and state eh only for Christians I guess.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:22 PM
 
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" Barack Hussein Obama: US "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world"

This just can't be...Americans hate Muslims to the core.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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President Obama's comment was as simple as can be:

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“And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,†Mr. Obama said. “And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.â€
And therefore, you know that wingnuts won't understand it, or will lie and prevaricate to make it sound ominous. That's all they have: fear, hatred, anger, and a willingness to lie and smear.

You could replace "Muslim" in that sentence with any subgroup you choose, and it will most likely remain true, given the size of the US. Try "Irish." Try "Armenian." Try "Jewish."

It's simple and true to the point of being banal. And the American extreme-right, including many on this board, will go ape-**** over it - for no other reason other than they are a bunch of America-hating, lying nutbags with no sense of personal dignity.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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Would you libs be so sanguine if Barry had gone to, oh, say Germany....and said that the US is a Christian country.

Oh. No. That's different.

Brave New World.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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President Obama's comment was as simple as can be:



And therefore, you know that wingnuts won't understand it, or will lie and prevaricate to make it sound ominous. That's all they have: fear, hatred, anger, and a willingness to lie and smear.

You could replace "Muslim" in that sentence with any subgroup you choose, and it will most likely remain true, given the size of the US. Try "Irish." Try "Armenian." Try "Jewish."

It's simple and true to the point of being banal. And the American extreme-right, including many on this board, will go ape-**** over it - for no other reason other than they are a bunch of America-hating, lying nutbags with no sense of personal dignity.
explain what you mean by "nutbags"
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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separation of church and state eh only for Christians I guess.
Yeah. Very true and right.

Church is also of the Christian religion, you know.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Barack Hussein Obama: US "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world
What an absurd and patently false statement.

His idiocy is truly something to behold.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Better than being a Christian Country.
You obviously hate women or you would not say that. Or maybe you are just ignorant?
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:19 PM
 
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What an absurd and patently false statement.

His idiocy is truly something to behold.
Or you can say he is showing his true colors!
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