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Old 06-18-2009, 06:12 AM
 
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sorry, but Carter is the only POTUS with a track record of success, and no other US President has as much knowledge.

Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize.

It is amazing the level of hate and Denial some Zionists and their sympathizers have against peace with Palestine.

Following Carter's advice would lead to peace, which would be good for the United States of America. Of course there are nutcase israelis and rabid palestinians that will try to screw it up.

No more wars for Israel. The United States taxpayer demands peace and and end to subsidizing Zionists and Pals alike. Stop funding Israel's theft of land with US tax money!!

Hey lamont:

Do you honestly expect anyone here to believe that KEN STEIN is an honest broker for peace, or America's interests? That guy is a lunatic AIPAC operative.

What success? How long did it last? When dealing with theocratic nutjobs who have no interest in peace, there can be no success. Something you and carter have yet to figure out.

Furthermore, perhaps you are forgetting carter - the brilliant middle east stragist - allowed the Iranian hostage crisis to not only happen but to last as long as it did.

Yeah, the man is a genius
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:15 AM
 
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What success? How long did it last? When dealing with theocratic nutjobs who have no interest in peace, there can be no success. Something you and carter have yet to figure out.

Furthermore, perhaps you are forgetting carter - the brilliant middle east stragist - allowed the Iranian hostage crisis to not only happen but to last as long as it did.

Yeah, the man is a genius
Lets just say that Carter has much more insight into the middle east that our X-president BUSH.
It is all about bringing peace to the middle east. Carter is clearly working for that, and its all about bold moves that change the momentum.
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:18 AM
 
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Former President Jimmy Carter will urge the Obama administration to remove Hamas from the terrorist list, FOX News has learned.
Carter, a chief defender of the U.S.-designated terror group, said Tuesday he will meet with officials in the Obama administration in two days to discuss his latest trip to the Middle East.
Meanwhile, two Palestinian sources told FOX News that the group had discovered two roadside bombs planted near a crossing between Israel and Gaza on a path Carter's convoy took to meet with the group's leaders.
Obama should remove them. In his world there is no such thing as a terrorist.
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:01 AM
 
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Lets just say that Carter has much more insight into the middle east that our X-president BUSH.
It is all about bringing peace to the middle east. Carter is clearly working for that, and its all about bold moves that change the momentum.
if you consider bold moves begging, well i guess you have that.....


however:
MADRID (AFP) — Last week’s meeting between former US president Jimmy Carter and the exiled leader of Hamas militants did not produce any results, Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki said here Wednesday.

“President Carter came to the region thinking he could achieve something. Unfortunately president Carter left without anything concrete,” he told a conference in the Spanish capital.

“The only thing he achieved was permission on the part of Khaled Meshaal of Hamas to deliver a letter from a detained Israeli soldier to his family. Nothing else,” he said.

“Hamas offered nothing to president Carter. They reiterated the same positions. There was no change on the part of Hamas,” Malki added.

Carter’s meetings with top Hamas leader Meshaal and his deputy in Syria angered Israel and the United States, which consider the movement a terror group despite its victory in 2006 elections.

He was unable to secure a ceasefire or a prisoner exchange for an Israeli soldier seized by Gaza militants in 2006, but on Monday Carter said Hamas told him it would recognise Israel’s right to exist such a deal was approved by a Palestinian vote.

Just hours later Meshaal told a press conference in Damascus that Hamas would not recognise the Jewish state and would insist on the right of return for 4.5 million Palestinian refugees.

i stand with my position that carter, like most politicians, has a monumental ego and thinks that because he says something it becomes true. americans are not going to be able to settle the differences between the israelis and the palestinians, especially given america's prior interventions.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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Meet the true father of the Islamic Revolution: Jimmy Carter

A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels, and so on. However, he should kill the animal after orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in the village; however, the selling of meat to people in a neighboring village is permissible. --Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini

Hamas is an organization that remains responsible for scores of suicide attacks against Israeli civilians (including the 2002 Passover suicide bombing); that supports the World Islamic Statement (the declaration of war against the United States as issued by Osama bin Laden in 1998; that disseminates hate literature to Muslim children throughout the Middle East; and that prays for Allah to transform Jews into “apes, pigs, mice, and lizards.”

Jimmy thinks they are great guys and wept over the fact that they remain on the terror list of Israel, the European Union, and the United States and that the Israelis have responded to their guerilla attacks by launching mortars that have left much of the country in shambles.

But Carter was not content with simply making a spectacle of himself in Gaza.
He went on to Lebanon to meet with Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, the spiritual leader of Hezbollah. Fadlallah is responsible for the October 1983 bombing of the barracks of the U.S. Marines in Beirut - - an attack which result in the deaths of 241 American soldiers.


Let’s remember Jimmy’s record in the White House.

Meet the true father of the Islamic Revolution: Jimmy Carter
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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Lets just say that Carter has much more insight into the middle east that our X-president BUSH.
It is all about bringing peace to the middle east. Carter is clearly working for that, and its all about bold moves that change the momentum.
As soon as Carter assumed the oath of office, the White House became peopled with characters out of Li’l Abner’s Dogpatch, including the family matriarch “Miz” Lillian, Jimmy’s Bible-toting sister Ruth, and his beer-guzzling brother Billy, who came to receive a mysterious payment of $2.5 million from the Libyan government.

Determined to end dependency on foreign oil, Jimmy moved to regulate domestic oil prices. The result was the creation of a price-gouging OPEC cartel that sent oil prices soaring, created rampant inflation, and drove the U.S. economy into deep recession. The misery index, Carter’s own invention for determining the well-being of the American people, rose by 50% during his four years in office.

Jimmy went on to relinquish control of the Panama Canal, to oppose the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan by pulling the U.S. team out of the Olympics, and by attempting to normalize relations with Cuba through the opening of “interest sections” in Washington and Havana. His Cuban policy resulted in the Mariel Boatlift whereby Fidel Castro sent 120,000 refugees - - including mental patients and hardened criminals - - to Miami, thereby transforming the resort city into the crime capital of the United States.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12132
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:58 AM
 
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Calm does Careter Haters, the man is genuine, and he is working for people.
In the end, Hamas has to change and come to terms with Israel, while Israel has to accept the existance of palestinians and their right in nationhood.

It is true, Hamas is seen as a terrorist organization, but thats mostly in the eyes of Israelis and their supporters (usa...), where as Israel is seen by arabs as an apartheid state colonizing the historic land of palestine, and denying the palestinians their right of existance....

This statusquo needs to change. And Carter is working for change in the middle east, and it is change that will bring the peace we all hope for.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:14 AM
 
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Determined to end dependency on foreign oil, Jimmy moved to regulate domestic oil prices. The result was the creation of a price-gouging OPEC cartel that sent oil prices soaring, created rampant inflation, and drove the U.S. economy into deep recession. The misery index, Carter’s own invention for determining the well-being of the American people, rose by 50% during his four years in office.

Jimmy went on to relinquish control of the Panama Canal, to oppose the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan by pulling the U.S. team out of the Olympics, and by attempting to normalize relations with Cuba through the opening of “interest sections” in Washington and Havana. His Cuban policy resulted in the Mariel Boatlift whereby Fidel Castro sent 120,000 refugees - - including mental patients and hardened criminals - - to Miami, thereby transforming the resort city into the crime capital of the United States.

Meet the true father of the Islamic Revolution: Jimmy Carter

sfgate had an interesting piece on carter, as well.
don't forget that when it comes to the belligerence of North Korea, Carter's past involvement has done considerable damage. In the early 1990s, Carter traveled to North Korea on another of his "peacekeeping missions" and brokered a deal with dictator Kim Il Sung. He did so without the blessing of the Clinton administration, although, at the behest of then-Vice President Al Gore, President Clinton later agreed to adopt Carter's deal. The United States ended up providing aid, oil and, incredibly, material for building light-water nuclear reactors to the North Koreans in exchange for their abandoning their nuclear weapons program. The problem is they didn't abandon their nuclear weapons program; they just said they did. And in 2002, they admitted as much.

here we are today with north korea threatening to lob something nuclear our way......



the problem with carter is that he seems to forget that he is no longer president.
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Old 06-21-2009, 11:13 AM
 
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sfgate had an interesting piece on carter, as well.
don't forget that when it comes to the belligerence of North Korea, Carter's past involvement has done considerable damage. In the early 1990s, Carter traveled to North Korea on another of his "peacekeeping missions" and brokered a deal with dictator Kim Il Sung. He did so without the blessing of the Clinton administration, although, at the behest of then-Vice President Al Gore, President Clinton later agreed to adopt Carter's deal. The United States ended up providing aid, oil and, incredibly, material for building light-water nuclear reactors to the North Koreans in exchange for their abandoning their nuclear weapons program. The problem is they didn't abandon their nuclear weapons program; they just said they did. And in 2002, they admitted as much.

here we are today with north korea threatening to lob something nuclear our way......



the problem with carter is that he seems to forget that he is no longer president.
Yes, and of course Iran went radical on Carter's watch 30 years ago, which obviously we're still paying for. The N Korean and Iranian problems both have their roots in Carter's activities. And he's at it today with his Hamas buddies. He just won't stop.

He has hurt the US as president and maybe even moreso as a former president. He's a disgrace.
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:55 AM
 
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As soon as Carter assumed the oath of office, the White House became peopled with characters out of Li’l Abner’s Dogpatch, including the family matriarch “Miz” Lillian, Jimmy’s Bible-toting sister Ruth, and his beer-guzzling brother Billy, who came to receive a mysterious payment of $2.5 million from the Libyan government.

Determined to end dependency on foreign oil, Jimmy moved to regulate domestic oil prices. The result was the creation of a price-gouging OPEC cartel that sent oil prices soaring, created rampant inflation, and drove the U.S. economy into deep recession. The misery index, Carter’s own invention for determining the well-being of the American people, rose by 50% during his four years in office.

Jimmy went on to relinquish control of the Panama Canal, to oppose the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan by pulling the U.S. team out of the Olympics, and by attempting to normalize relations with Cuba through the opening of “interest sections” in Washington and Havana. His Cuban policy resulted in the Mariel Boatlift whereby Fidel Castro sent 120,000 refugees - - including mental patients and hardened criminals - - to Miami, thereby transforming the resort city into the crime capital of the United States.

Meet the true father of the Islamic Revolution: Jimmy Carter

Look, Carter may have failed at many occasions, but he the man is genuine.

Do we disagree that the USA should normalize its relationshop with Cuba?
Do we disagree that alienating the palestinian officials will bring about peace in the middle east?
Do we disagree that Carter knows much more about the nuances of the middle east conflict than other presidents.
Do we diagree on the fact that Carter vision of the world seems much more appealing than what Bush had in mind?

the US, and the world at large need more people like Carter. Presidents with an understanding of ssues that stems from their knowledge of the matter rather that what their advisors tell them to do, or what the pressure Lobbies intice them to believe.
Carter is truely an independant thinker, and he does simple do/say what is expected of him
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