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Old 06-29-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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Today's Rasmussen poll has Obama's Approval Index at zero. What's especially significant is that this comes four days after ABC's all-day-culminating-with-a-broadcast-from-the-White House health-care plan telethon and five days after a press conference -- one in which, incidentally, some reporters were (finally!) actually asking challenging questions and reacting to the (il)logic of his answers. Note that, during that time Obama's A.I. never exceeded +2, compared to previous peaks of +10 after the Sotomayor nomination and +9 after his Cairo speech.

In other words, Obama's ability to pump up the numbers via media extravaganzas has hit the point of diminishing returns.

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It's Rasmussen - not exactly a non-biased source.

That said, his approval rate is falling and his disapproval rate is rising. It's just not as low or high, respectively, as Rasmussen says it is.
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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Rasmussen releases a new poll almost every day, and it seems that every one of them makes Obama and Democrats look bad. Their bias is obvious. If they weren't biased, at least a few of their polls would cast Republicans in a negative light, but that never seems to happen.

You can play with numbers any way you want to make something look good or look bad. "Obama Approval Index at 0". Whatever.

An average of all current polls shows:

56% approve
39.8% disapprove

That's the bottom line.

Pollster.com: National Job Approval: Pres. Barack Obama
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:57 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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How about using the poll that over time has proven to be the most accurate. Now those polls would be which oh thats right Rasmussen would be one of them
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:58 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Gallup has Obama at 57% that might change when updated later on
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:01 AM
 
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How about using the poll that over time has proven to be the most accurate. Now those polls would be which oh thats right Rasmussen would be one of them
There's a big difference between being accurate in predicting an election and accurate on opinion polls. There's nothing to confirm an opinion poll.

And why would you trust only one polling company anyway? Do you not believe in competition?
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The trend is down. Way down.

Any legitimate statistician looks at time being the only variable, assuming the methodology remains constant.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:08 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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How about using the poll that over time has proven to be the most accurate. Now those polls would be which oh thats right Rasmussen would be one of them
Nope.

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Nope.

The graphs, for the most part, track in parallel. That implies the methodology is sound but the sampling may be skewed. Obama's numbers are dropping like a rock, but Rasmussen has them a few points lower than other polls. Also, your poll as an extremely sensitive Y axis scale, making a 1% delta look very very different.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Gallup has Obama at 57% that might change when updated later on

It changed all right...Obama's at 59%

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
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