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Old 07-02-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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With that said, renaming of stuff occurs from time-to-time. Look at Sears Tower - the new owners are going to rename it Willis Tower! Blasphemy...
One of the many reasons we're moving back to a place that has more of a sense of and an appreciation and reverence for history and tradition.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:25 PM
 
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The point is we lost the war.
Yeah, we do so much better by bombing from afar.

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Old 07-02-2009, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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If Regan was a bad actor then that makes Obama the Thief in the Night?

Anyone that would steal money out of your children's and grandchildren's piggy banks is just lower than pond scum. Better known as a scumsucker.
"IF"???????

Tell that to W. The money was gone and they were buried in debt before he left office.

W accumulated more deficit from 2000-2008 than his predecessors did from 1776-2000. That is history, and cannot be spun.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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Basicaly they are just as shocked now as they were then by Reagan's results. They would like to rewrite history but the results are there for anyone to see.Reagan is probaly the most likely president to go down with other modern prersident to go down as one of the great presidents.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Earth
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If Regan was a bad actor then that makes Obama the Thief in the Night?

Anyone that would steal money out of your children's and grandchildren's piggy banks is just lower than pond scum. Better known as a scumsucker.
Gee, didn't hear you whine during the Bush administration started all of this crap, did I?

Your comment is disingenuous at best.

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Of course, the Soviet Union ended the Cold War. They surrendered, broke apart, as a result of our bankrupting them in the arms race. So, you wanna give the South credit for ending the Civil War, too?
Bankrupted ourselves, as well.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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reagan stopped the cold war and restored sense of self respect after vietnam. he did a lot. however he was not an economist, debt is not in fact meaningless, debt is slavery.
And in 8 years Reagan built a debt that was how much less than Obama has created in 5 months. How in hell can people like you talk about debt when your man has created more of it than all the preceding Presidents managed to do in so short a time.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Reagan did not end the Cold War. And he restored no national "sense of self respect after Vietnam." Are you kidding me?
Who was the President when the Soviet Union broke up? Hmmmm, was it Carter? Nope. Was it Clinton? Nope and it wasn't either Bush either. I wonder just who it was.

Come on and get your mind out of reverse.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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[quote=roysoldboy;9578869]And in 8 years Reagan built a debt that was how much less than Obama has created in 5 months. How in hell can people like you talk about debt when your man has created more of it than all the preceding Presidents managed to do in so short a time.[/quote]

How about a link to some hard figures on that?

The National Debt was way over $10 trillion before Obama's inauguration.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Who was the President when the Soviet Union broke up? Hmmmm, was it Carter? Nope. Was it Clinton? Nope and it wasn't either Bush either. I wonder just who it was.

Come on and get your mind out of reverse.
Are you saying that an American president brought the Soviet Union to its knees.
I think you have a problem with tunnel vision and don't understand economics or politics or geography at all.
Just look at the land mass of Russia.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Actually he did.. Remember we had a very lengthy Vietnam War ending with a nasty defeat, followed by Watergate which revealed an extensive crime network under Nixon, followed by another pair of presidential blunders - "Pardon me" Ford and of course Jimmy Carter. After what had happened in the 20 or so years prior to Reagan taking office, his 1980 campaign was music to the ears of demoralized Americans. He restored faith in the presidency and restored American confidence - Hence his high approval ratings, dual landslides, and his post-murtom climb to the #9 spot on the best presidents of all time list.
Reagan did all those things and these libs keep on talking about how bad he was? Hmmm, I do wonder. Oh hell, I am only 76 years old and haven't lived through 13 or so Presidents. I guess that must be true, though.
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