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Old 07-12-2009, 03:53 PM
 
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A top health insurance executive from CIGNA says that Michael Moore's movie Sicko "hit the nail on the head" because it showed how countries that have single-payer health care, such as the UK and Canada, do a better job at meeting the health care needs of their people. He then goes on to say that "we shouldn't fear government involvment in health care; there is a role for government in health care and it's been proven in the countries that are in that movie" (Sicko). The insurance industry trade association, has been manipulating the American people to scare them away from single-payer health care, denouncing it as socialist, because they (the insurance companies) will be run out of business. The industry used lobbyists to basically tell Democrats not to embrace the movie Sicko or else they would not contribute to their campaigns, fund their opponents, put out attack ads against them ect.. Guess that Sicko really scared the **** our of the insurance industry because it proves that other industrialized countries that have single-payer systems are able to do a better job of taking care of their people. For me it's really sad that these crooks have so much money and political power that they can completely screw up our health care system, make a ton of money while doing it, and strongarm our elected officials into not fixing the problem.


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Old 07-12-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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we should just have a choice. you either get the post office service, or you get fedex. which will people choose.

don't people wish they got a better spokesman for health care than a 17000 lb troll?
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Old 07-12-2009, 04:00 PM
 
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as soon as I hear Michael Moore I tune out...its like when people hear Rush Limbaugh...I dislike both radicals
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Old 07-12-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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as soon as I hear Michael Moore I tune out...its like when people hear Rush Limbaugh...I dislike both
why? you don't like fat angry idiots?
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Old 07-12-2009, 04:24 PM
 
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as soon as I hear Michael Moore I tune out...its like when people hear Rush Limbaugh...I dislike both radicals
If you tune out than that's useful information that your missing out on. Sicko was a very good documentary that shows how much better other industrialized countries' single-payer systems work than our private system. The World Health oraganization agrees with this (otherwise they wouldn't have ranked the US system #37 in overall performance, behind all other industrialized nations) and now an ex CIGNA executive seems to agree with it too. This should tell you something. You know, I even listen to these right wing nuts every once in a while (Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reiley, Beck) and when they have a good idea (which is almost never in my opinion) I give them credit for it.
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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we should just have a choice. you either get the post office service, or you get fedex. which will people choose.

don't people wish they got a better spokesman for health care than a 17000 lb troll?
I agree! A government health insurance plan for those who want it, and the private system for those that want private insurance.

American HEALTHCARE is great, ACCESS to healthcare..... not so much!
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:40 PM
 
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So now you want to beleive a ex insurnce man. They are either the deviol or the daerling depending on if they confesss;sounds like something out of a movie on the communist during korea.But it seems most experts do not agree with him.
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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So now you want to beleive a ex insurnce man. They are either the deviol or the daerling depending on if they confesss;sounds like something out of a movie on the communist during korea.But it seems most experts do not agree with him.
Which experts? Do they have a vested interest in debunking Moore?
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:53 PM
 
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But it seems most experts do not agree with him.
Which "most experts" would they be?
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:58 PM
 
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So now you want to beleive a ex insurnce man. They are either the deviol or the daerling depending on if they confesss;sounds like something out of a movie on the communist during korea.But it seems most experts do not agree with him.
Wait... so... you all think health care is OK, which is a de facto pat on the back to guys like the guy in the video, yet if they come out and say that there are problems, suddenly it's wrong to believe them?

Har.
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