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Old 07-16-2009, 08:19 PM
 
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This speech might not change much because changing the things he talked about will require more than a speech.

I don't see many of the problems in Black America changing until Blacks change how they operate economiclly in America. Blacks spend $800 billion dollars a year and yet poverty and it's various byproducts are a big issue among Blacks.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Did you listen too or read what he stated? I took that as, this President telling those very same people that your referencing, to get off their azz, stop depending solely on the government and help yourselves and your children. It needs to be said over and over again, but at the same time, accountability needs to be handed down.
And that is what was missing. That is why I posted what I did.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:35 PM
 
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"Always", no..They actually were prevented(by law) from having an opportunity in the past. I'm sure you hope it wont.

The people he was talking to have. You can live in the past and let that keep you down or move forward.

The people in the audience were never prevented from doing what Obama said they should do.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:37 PM
 
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"Always", no..They actually were prevented(by law) from having an opportunity in the past. I'm sure you hope it wont.
If you are referring to the pre-Civil War days then go do some researching; there were several very wealthy slave owners that were Black.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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The people he was talking to have. You can live in the past and let that keep you down or move forward.

The people in the audience were never prevented from doing what Obama said they should do.
Actually, if you are over 40 years old, you were prevented from having equal opportunity. You might want to do some reaserch on the Civil Rights period. The same goes for the poster that believes discrimination ceased after the civil war.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:46 PM
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Some of you folks really need to get a grip. He was talking to the NAACP which is made up primarily of hard working, middle class - upper class people....mostly Black although I've had membership myself. "These people" as you call them, HAVE done just what you claim is necessary. What they do is to try to help others who have not yet made it and to provide legal protection to prevent more miscarriages of justice and protect the civil rights promised to them by our constitution. You really HAVE to stop imagining that all Black people are welfare queens and gang bangers. I have a hard time imagining what narrow little worlds some of you inhabit.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Actually, if you are over 40 years old, you were prevented from having equal opportunity. You might want to do some reaserch on the Civil Rights period. The same goes for the poster that believes discrimination ceased after the civil war.
I am over 40 and I work with other engineers that are over 40 and Black.
They went to college, they got a degree and a good job. Not every Black in America was prevented from bettering themselves. I won't say it didn't exist but it was not a 100% lockout to them.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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If you are referring to the pre-Civil War days then go do some researching; there were several very wealthy slave owners that were Black.
what does that have to do with anything?
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:50 PM
 
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what does that have to do with anything?
Read the post I was replying to.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:54 PM
 
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I am over 40 and I work with other engineers that are over 40 and Black.
They went to college, they got a degree and a good job. Not every Black in America was prevented from bettering themselves. I won't say it didn't exist but it was not a 100% lockout to them.

I suggest you pick up a history book and figure out when Civil Rights legislation began. Then do some simple math. You're an engineer. You should be able to figure it out. In fact, ask a Black co-worker and see if they were in the first generation to benefit from that legislation.

Black people have always gone to college. There have always beenBlack professionals. However, please don't try to tell us that there was EQUAL opportunity prior to the civil rights movement.
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