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View Poll Results: Are we getting ripped off with health care system?
Yes, it's time for reform 21 87.50%
No, I love to pay $100 for a bottle of medicine 3 12.50%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-01-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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pharmaceutical industry is for profits
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:41 PM
 
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I called a clinic to get my toe looked at so they can "say" that yes I need some lamisil for my fungus and they said that would cost around 200 to get the prescription and 70 for lamisil.

270????? freaking crazy

I crossed the border to Brownsville Texas and picked up a 36 tablet box of Lamisil for 10 dollars..problem fixed. Every year thousands of "snowbirds" in case your wondering snowbirds flock to South Texas in the hundreds of thousands to buy Meds in Reynosa, Progresso, and Matamoros. Well they don't just go to buy meds they spend their winters down in south Texas but they partake in the cheap meds there and cheap dental work. I got a crown last year in Mexico in a very nice dental clinic there..cost: 30 bucks. And I was very satisfied. My sister who is a City Public Service worker in San Antonio paid 1000.00 dollars for a root canal with health insurance.

I know get my health care in Malaysia. They are way ahead of us in Health care very nice facilities and more modern than ours with smaller wait times.

It's getting worse and worse here, when I retire, I'm outta here.
Yes the right seems to be saying all the time that health care reform is anti-capitalist, but all that congress does it put laws in place to try to eliminate competition, can't buy drugs from foreign countries etc. I could understand safety concerns about buying drugs from Somalia, but safety concerns regarding drugs from Britain, Canada, Germany...who are they trying to kid.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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Money+power. Lobbyists are the catalyst. Remember when Mr. Bush claimed that cheaper Canadian pharmaceuticals were not allowed, because they "couldn't" test them for quality? Well that's only one example of tyrannical money-grubbing pharmaceutical-industry greed.
Yes, everyday people are dieing in Canada from bad pharms.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:01 AM
 
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I don't care how much cheaper the drugs cost in Mexico, I wouldn't trust them no matter how desperate I was. As to cheaper drugs in Canada, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the government subsidize the cost some? I mean heck, you can get $4 prescriptions at Walmart, so in some cases it isn't all that bad.

Of course you will always run into the specialty drugs that are fairly new or only used in limited numbers, of course they will be expensive, that's just supply and demand issues.

There is no magic wand to wave over the problem and magically give everyone the medical coverage they want for the price they want, there will be pain one way or the other. The question is how much do you give to folks for medical care and where do you take from? I personally don't want to watch my country's economy to collapse in order to give insurance to everyone. It just doesn't make sense, and yes it will suck somewhere along the line, someone will end up being told no and we will get to read the story, but we will never hear from ones who get told yes, and we will never hear how not giving everyone coverage helped the economy.

I will be honest, I am kinda glad I'm not the one making these decisions, but if forced to do so I will side with the economy. It would be bad, but rather tell 30 million no you don't get insurance then tell 300 million my plan bankrupted the country.

It looks and sounds ok your arguments. However healthcare should not be commercialized period. When you do his you playing with peoples life. Postal service, library,fire departments are not commercialized and they work fine with our tax dollars. Life is more important then a Postal service, a highway or the library.

This comercialism of people life should be out. Just like taxes give ways to other means it should do the same to healthcare. Next thing they should commercialize is the air we breath in supermarkets, the mall, one of the other with heathier air to breath.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:03 AM
 
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It looks and sounds ok your arguments. However healthcare should not be commercialized period. When you do this you playing with peoples life. Postal service, library,fire departments are not commercialized and they work fine with our tax dollars. Life is more important then a Postal service, a highway or the library.

This comercialism of people life should be out. Just like taxes give ways to other means it should do the same to healthcare. Next thing they should commercialize is the air we breath in supermarkets, the mall, one of the other with heathier air to breath.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:08 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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The FACT is, many medications - not all, don't cost $100. These medications are available for $4.00 for a 30 day supply or $10.00 for a 90 day supply.

I do not consider that a "rip off".
Heck Publix is offering a list of antibiotics for free
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:08 AM
 
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Healthcare should not be commercialized. The library, the postal service, the roads, the fire dept hey work well and are not businesses. America should protect our lifes just as we claim to protect our freedom.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:58 AM
 
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Here's the one thing that nobody in the right wing media will talk about.

Why in the hell is medicine so damn expensive in the United States?
We pay with our tax money for the research of medicine and then get charged absolutely ridiculous prices for that medicine.


$30 billion dollar budget for medical research (tax money)
NIH - Budget


Cheap prescription drugs creating new brand of US tourist in Canada,Mexico
June 2000
Cheap prescription drugs creating new brand of US tourist in Canada, Mexico -- Korcok 162 (13): 1869 -- Canadian Medical Association Journal
Overall, the survey found that for the 10 most commonly prescribed drugs, average prices were 64% lower in Canada than in Washington state.

The Arizona Republic notes that in the Mexican border town of Algodones, 28 farmacias are clustered in a 3-block area well known to thousands of Americans who venture in regularly for their medications. Many claim they save US$500 to $600 per trip.
Drugs are expensive because like health care insurance and medical care THERE IS NO LAW which controls the price......these industries can charge whatever they want....simple as that ...de-regulation =no reglualtion=higher and higher prices.

The crapass health care bill in congress (sponsored and written by insurance companies) outlaws importing cheaper drugs......to help keep Americans poor.

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Old 12-18-2009, 07:17 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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pharmaceutical industry is for profits
What industry isnt?
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:41 AM
 
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What industry isnt?
Are you a strong supporter of big insurance and big Pharma? Do you always consider the best interests of big corporations above your own best interests?
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