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Didn't you get the memo? As long as you provide a link, no matter how dubious or specious the material the link(s) point to may be, you win the argument. Get with the program!
Sometimes I wonder how people interact with other people in real life without demanding links and citations for everything that is discussed. News flash - it's just as easy to be wrong on the internet as it is in real life.
When I go to Sunday breakfast with my friends, we many times discuss politics (both lefties and righties among us) and no one whips out magazines, newspapers, textbooks or Google search on electronic devices to back up their experiences or opinions.
We are having an informal online discussion. We aren't setting policy here, running for office, or writing textbooks or theses. We don't even expect politicians to do it when they participate in debates, yet for some reason, a goodly amount of people online seem to get awfully hung up on it. Perhaps it's a pre-emptive way of creating/preserving the "truthiness" of one's own arguments? I dunno, but it is interesting.
Yes, citation is a good thing, and I'm not against it, by any means - I do it occasionally too - but let's not get obsessed by it or start to think that simply providing a link trumps all other argumentation.
And don't be silly enough to demand links for personal anecdotes or I will assume you are interested in a one-sided conversation and you will end up on ignore, and you can have your one-sided discussion - alone. I will happily let you.
Didn't you get the memo? As long as you provide a link, no matter how dubious or specious the material the link(s) point to may be, you win the argument. Get with the program!
Sometimes I wonder how people interact with other people in real life without demanding links and citations for everything that is discussed. News flash - it's just as easy to be wrong on the internet as it is in real life.
When I go to Sunday breakfast with my friends, we many times discuss politics (both lefties and righties among us) and no one is whips out magazines, newspapers, textbooks or Google search on electronic devices.
We are having an informal online discussion. We aren't setting policy here, running for office, or writing textbooks or theses. We don't even expect politicians to do it when they participate in debates, yet for some reason, a goodly amount of people online seem to get awfully hung up on it. Perhaps it's a preventative way of creating/preserving the "truthiness" of one's own arguments? I dunno, but it is interesting.
Yes, citation is a good thing, and I'm not against it, by any means - I do it occasionally too - but let's not get obsessed by it or start to think that simply providing a link trumps all other argumentation.
And don't be silly enough to demand links for personal anecdotes or I will assume you are interested in a one-sided conversation and you will end up on ignore, and you can have your one-sided discussion - alone. I will let you.
I believe that citations are very important here. I have learned a lot from citations and links. They add to the discussion. The legitimacy of the link also bears weight on the assertion of the poster. Without link and citations, this forum could turn into a mountain of misinformation.
(I removed my post because I thought the thread was about ended.)
No I wasn't. Not ever, in this Universe!
I share the vast majority of your positions and you are one of my favorite posters!
Sorry for the confusion - I rely on sarcasm a bit too much these days. I think right now it's just become a placeholder for the eventual throwing of my hands in the air and logging out of this site permanently. Not something to be proud of, I suppose.
I believe that citations are very important here. I have learned a lot from citations and links. They add to the discussion. The legitimacy of the link also bears weight on the assertion of the poster. Without link and citations, this forum could turn into a mountain of misinformation.
So true and the whole point of this thread really. Palin is always an unreliable source, a pure propagandist, but perhaps people are finally starting to see that, hence the lack of Palinphiles on this thread. Hopefully they are starting to get it, though I have my doubts.
I believe that citations are very important here. I have learned a lot from citations and links. They add to the discussion. The legitimacy of the link also bears weight on the assertion of the poster. Without link and citations, this forum could turn into a mountain of misinformation.
Yes, and I touched upon this towards the end of my post. I agree, but I also dislike it when people use citation as a weapon - that was the point I was trying to make - that the content behind the link is what's important - not just the fact that you provided a link.
My secondary point was that asking for citation for personal experience is silly avenue to go down.
they are not described as deathpanels or euthanasia. it is called end of life counciling i believe. that was how the Mom explained it.if you really need to know go research it yourself
Yes, and doctors everywhere support it. They think that people should be able to decide how they would like to die: whether they want DNR or not, whether they wish to designate someone in particular as a health proxy (to make health decisions on their behalf if they are not able to do so), etc. It's also optional--do you know what that means? That means that it's a voluntary benefit that a person can choose to use--or not. Those who choose to use it will have it paid for under the health plan.
And stop blaming Obama for it. The end of life counseling clause was introduced by a REPUBLICAN senator: Johnny Isakson of Georgia.
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