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Well said. Sad to say, I'd support a foreign automaker before GM or Chrysler. Glad to see I'm not the only one who refuses to support federal government takeover of our major independent business entities.
Ditto here. I've driven GM vehicles for forty years but never again.
Want to check your math or tell us where you buy cars? 40k/20 = $2,000 Cheap car.....
A lot of very good vehicles are priced under $2000. Last February I bought an exceptionally clean 1990 Accord LX for $2000 in Albuquerque. The car has only 150,000, gets 32 mpg and runs like a Singer sewing machine.
A lot of very good vehicles are priced under $2000. Last February I bought an exceptionally clean 1990 Accord LX for $2000 in Albuquerque. The car has only 150,000, gets 32 mpg and runs like a Singer sewing machine.
YOU POOR SOUL.
Singer sewing machines are abysmal.
(I knew folks who worked for Singer, and the popular joke was : the only thing that Singer makes that doesn't suck is its vacuum cleaner...)
The volt gets a $7500 tax credit if that means anything to you. If some of you people do your research it's states the combustion engine will kick in and give you over 50 mpg. Lets take 50 + 40 = 90mpg. The battery should recharge itself while running in combustion mode adding more miles to the gallon which should put you over triple digits.
GM might even do another cash for clunker deal to promote car further and make the vehicle more affordable.
Since when did GM became a government run car maker? my understanding that we the taxpayer gave them a loan. Loans are suppose to be paid back. I will support GM because, i'm supporting the people of america. I want to do my part to keep Americans working.
A loan isn't the same as buying a majority share of the company.
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The volt gets a $7500 tax credit if that means anything to you. If some of you people do your research it's states the combustion engine will kick in and give you over 50 mpg. Lets take 50 + 40 = 90mpg. The battery should recharge itself while running in combustion mode adding more miles to the gallon which should put you over triple digits.
GM might even do another cash for clunker deal to promote car further and make the vehicle more affordable.
Since when did GM became a government run car maker? my understanding that we the taxpayer gave them a loan. Loans are suppose to be paid back. I will support GM because, i'm supporting the people of america. I want to do my part to keep Americans working.
You know, it's socialist to support good gas mileage.
No, but it is socialist to prescribe what kinds of vehicles can be manufactured and sold. It's also bordering on socialist to use the power of the government and tax dollars to try and force consumers to buy the types of vehicles that are preferred by the government.
Ditto here. I've driven GM vehicles for forty years but never again.
I don't recall the government being the one on the production line. I suspect you will find it is the hard working American that is doing what they can to keep their company going. Chrysler got a bailout under Carter and did well from it. ... So did the government. they made millions in their investment
When it was over the company was still American and employee your fellow citizens.
Perhaps if you wan't to disassociate your self from anything related to the American government then your list is long.
1. Take your money out of all financial institutions as they are backed and bailed out by the gov
2, stamps are a tax of our gov so stop mailing anything via US mail... must use Fed Ex and UPS
3. Pay cash for your home as the banks are all infiltrated by gov bailouts
4. DO Not retire and take SS or Medicare.. those are gov backed retirement systems.
5. Im sure you don't have any IRA's or mutual funds as they too are tied to banks
6 Don't eat American food as the gov regularly bails out and price supports the American farmer.
7 Skip those stundent loans....
I suspect your isolationist viewpoint is very selective. It also appears to penalize the American worker most of all.
I suspect most with their negative comments really only come down to not liking Obama. Seems those I hear making negative comments about him seem to like to employ the N word and really have nothing to back up their anger. These bail outs you are so hostile towards have with out a doubt benefited you personally. Gov back assistance has come in many forms and will continue to assist the public in a variety of ways, be it support for the economy, or keeping your neighbor employed... or preventing a meltdown of our economy.
As I recall, that government you want to rail against is our government, by the people and for the people. Perhaps you need to be more instrumenetal in the solution. Come up with a better plan. promote it to politiians and the elected. Make it a reality. Or you can continue to sit back, do nothing , take the support and complain about it.
You can plug it in when you get to your destination.
I'm all for more electical trains, but that is just not a reasonable solution to all of our transportation needs.
True. Rail is not good for everything. But if you can replace 90% of your traveling with rail, that would be a win-win.
Carpool to the local transit station - take a train - then take a shuttle bus to your job (employers could offer a shuttle to the station, instead of relying on a local diesel bus).
Lose time - but if you can relax, watch a movie on your laptop, read email, etc, it's not a total loss.
For cargo, shifting long haul cargo to containerized rail, and using short haul hybrid diesels to deliver locally would be a win-win. (Hybrids excel at stop and go traffic)
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I read somewhere else that the MPG will be only slightly better than the Prius.
If it does get 230 that would rock, but who to believe?
The 230 MPG applies to city and assumes you are making short trips here and there. On the highway, it's roughly 50 MPG.
But, who can afford it? $40,000, plus? I only paid $21,500 for my first house (new tract home in Mira Mesa, Ca).
$40,000 plus is a bit much for a car. I doubt there will be a large market, and especially since it is a small car.
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