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Old 08-17-2009, 07:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by compJockey View Post
YOU thought it had to do with "tempurture".
You were mistaken.

YOU thought it had been refuted - but refuse to post any evidence of that.
You are mistaken again.



Prove that you can read, first.
Trranslation of above...

I cannot substantiate my "evidence".
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:13 PM
 
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Trranslation of above...

I cannot substantiate my "evidence".
If you read the link, and try to understand it - but you still don't...
At that point I will attempt to explain it to you.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:25 PM
 
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The hockey stick graph goes back to 2001 and it was found to have a flawed approach. New studies, and in particular one that was completed in 2008, have reached the same conclusion with a sound academic approach. That study can be found here:
Proxy-based reconstructions of hemispheric and global surface temperature variations over the past two millennia — PNAS

While the original hockey stick graph was found to have reached an accurate conclusion it was still dismissed under the principal of "Method Wrong + Answer Correct = Bad Science".

Still, the scientific community has moved on since 2001. I suggest that some of you keep up.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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Dear blind poster:

The last degree increase has nothing to do with the current degree increase or the impacts it is proving to have.

Please expand. If one degree increase in temp will flood cities as you contend, why are waterfront cities circa 1AD not under water today, 2000 years later? We are after all 1 degree Celcius warmer.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:30 PM
 
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If you read the link, and try to understand it - but you still don't...
At that point I will attempt to explain it to you.
Still don't get it, do you.

The Hockey Stick fallacy has been around for years.

It was debunked long ago, and gets debunked every time it rears it's ugly head.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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Still don't get it, do you.

The Hockey Stick fallacy has been around for years.

It was debunked long ago, and gets debunked every time it rears it's ugly head.
So you are saying that any graph that has a massive increase is automatically false.

You don't realize how asinine that is?
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:10 PM
 
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So you are saying that any graph that has a massive increase is automatically false.

You don't realize how asinine that is?

Not all. Only those that utilized bad data.
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:11 PM
 
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So you are saying that any graph that has a massive increase is automatically false.

You don't realize how asinine that is?
No, it is the underlying data and structure that is faulty. He also conveniently left out a couple of "events" from the data.

surely you've heard the phrase - Garbage In, Garbage Out?
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:16 PM
 
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No, it is the underlying data and structure that is faulty. He also conveniently left out a couple of "events" from the data.
Ahh, sanrene.
You know how to provide a link - why don't you help out your fellow denier?
Why don't you provide a link refuting the measurements of Co2?
At least I know you understand how to post a link.

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surely you've heard the phrase - Garbage In, Garbage Out?
Yes, you demonstrate that effectively every time you post.
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fred Derf View Post
The hockey stick graph goes back to 2001 and it was found to have a flawed approach. New studies, and in particular one that was completed in 2008, have reached the same conclusion with a sound academic approach. That study can be found here:
Proxy-based reconstructions of hemispheric and global surface temperature variations over the past two millennia — PNAS

While the original hockey stick graph was found to have reached an accurate conclusion it was still dismissed under the principal of "Method Wrong + Answer Correct = Bad Science".

Still, the scientific community has moved on since 2001. I suggest that some of you keep up.
The graph I provided did not show temperature.
It showed measurements of Co2 and projected Co2.
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