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It is not a question that the southern states have higher divorce rates than northern states. This is attributed to several factors; southerners tend to get married earlier, they tend to get married at lower socio-economic levels, overall level of education when married may play a part, fundamentalists and baptists more heavily located in southern states are not as disapproving and more accepting of divorces generally speaking as Catholics which are more heavily located in northen states.
In cases of divorce, it's important to note that a large percentage of Southerners live in homes that can be moved, if necessary. Most Northern homes are quite stationary....
Out of everywhere, I have to say the town of Fort Smith, Arkansas (Pop 80,000) takes the crown for conservatism. About 1 out of 2 cars in any parking lot has some form of conservative bumper sticker (Bush/Cheney, religious, anti-gay, etc). If you don't support Bush here, you better keep it to yourself. Our mayor is a leader in the local church, and is elected every time based on that religiousity. Our radio dial has 8 religious stations. There aren't any so-called "Progressive churches" in this town. There is one Catholic church thats about as progressive as you are going to find. Most of the population is some shade of Baptist or Pentacostal/Assembly of God. You would be lucky to make it out alive here if you were gay. Our town was the #5 city for job loss in the nation in 2006, yet the citizens refuse to accept any alternative means to bring jobs to the town because it might bring sin into the town. The mayor organizes HUGE events to protest development. Back in the 90s, the city would not let IBM build a plant in Ft. Smith, which would have given the region MUCH NEEDED high-tech jobs, because of their sexual orientation non-discrimnation policy. Hooters was protested when they tried to come into town. We have 6 Wal-Mart Supercenters yet citizens complain and file lawsuit when Target wants to come into town and give them some competition. We have an extremely high sales tax, at 9.25%. I could go on and on.
Let me say I am not a liberal. I am very much an economic conservative and a social moderate, and I think the best communities are ones that have a progressive voice. Too much conservatism is not a good thing. Compare Fayetteville, AR with Ft. Smith and you see what I am talking about.
Fort Smith reminds me of the religious conservative foolishness that went on in Oklahoma City and Tulsa some years back. It got so out of hand that it took a number of court decisions to reel it in. For instance, Tulsa tried to get Penthouse banned as obscene and convict a couple of storekeeepers who were selling the magazine. However, a jury found them not guilty. As a consenquence, Oklahoma obscenity laws were rewritten to reflect U. S. Supreme Court rulings on the issue.
Oklahoma City tried to get the movie "The Tin Drum" banned because it was child porn, but merely based on one or two off camera scenes. A judge threw that case out. Also Oklahoma City tried to ban gay banners that were put up along a major 4 lane street near its gay district. But a judge ruled doing that went against free speech.
But fortunately in recent years Oklahoma as a whole as been coming along as less conservative and not so uptight as reflected by how lotteries, casinos and tattooing have become legal. But I suspect Arkansas still has some catching up to do with Oklahoma.
Fort Smith reminds me of the religious conservative foolishness that went on in Oklahoma City and Tulsa some years back. It got so out of hand that it took a number of court decisions to reel it in. For instance, Tulsa tried to get Penthouse banned as obscene and convict a couple of storekeeepers who were selling the magazine. However, a jury found them not guilty. As a consenquence, Oklahoma obscenity laws were rewritten to reflect U. S. Supreme Court rulings on the issue.
Oklahoma City tried to get the movie "The Tin Drum" banned because it was child porn, but merely based on one or two off camera scenes. A judge threw that case out. Also Oklahoma City tried to ban gay banners that were put up along a major 4 lane street near its gay district. But a judge ruled doing that went against free speech.
But fortunately in recent years Oklahoma as a whole as been coming along as less conservative and not so uptight as reflected by how lotteries, casinos and tattooing have become legal. But I suspect Arkansas still has some catching up to do with Oklahoma.
I used to live in Oklahoma City before my dad retired and moved to the family to the good ole' family values town of Ft. Smith (ugh). It amazes me how far OKC has come since I left it. I remember the ordeal about the gay banners in the 39th st enclave. Today's OKC is definately more hip and progressive than the OKC I moved to in 1998 was. If it wasn't for an excellent job offer I recieved in Little Rock, I would have went back to OKC after college graduation.
Fort Smith needs a progressive voice to counter the dominant religious conservatism if anything is going to change. As of now, Ft. Smith doesn't have that. This town loses almost all its young professionals.
I used to live in Oklahoma City before my dad retired and moved to the family to the good ole' family values town of Ft. Smith (ugh). It amazes me how far OKC has come since I left it. I remember the ordeal about the gay banners in the 39th st enclave. Today's OKC is definately more hip and progressive than the OKC I moved to in 1998 was. If it wasn't for an excellent job offer I recieved in Little Rock, I would have went back to OKC after college graduation.
Fort Smith needs a progressive voice to counter the dominant religious conservatism if anything is going to change. As of now, Ft. Smith doesn't have that. This town loses almost all its young professionals.
its pretty apparent that innovation and talent migrate to progressive area's of the country.. some places like here in boise have had talent and innovation come to it and with the innovation and talent has brought progressiveness.... so it does work both ways... with that said there are still a few conservative wack jobs that tried to put the 10 commandments in a city park thinking they were among a majority that shared their beliefs..boy were they wrong....it was put to a local vote and surprisingly they got told where to go..and the pretty little tablets were ripped out and stuck on a church's yard... and we haven't heard from them since...people, places, things change.. time tells all...
Excellent thread! I'm surprised though there are not more cities being named here. I would love to see more cities named because I plan to stay away from ALL of them.
Excellent thread! I'm surprised though there are not more cities being named here. I would love to see more cities named because I plan to stay away from ALL of them.
Thank goodness we all don't feel this way. I for one will not let my life choices, including where I live, be based on other people's political views!
Is this really true? DC is a liberal, gun control bastion and has a sky-high murder rate.
Not as high as Birmingham, Alabama. 44.34 murders per 100,000 population in Birmingham in 2005, the latest year for which complete data are available. That easily beats out Baltimore's crummy 41.96 to earn the title of most murder-happy city (200,000 or more) in the nation. DC does have a high murder rate as a result of its continuing drug-turf wars, but at 35.42, it's a long way off the lead.
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What cities have are very conservative?
Colorado Springs: Stellar fiscally conservative credentials. Politicians in few instances in Colorado Springs suggest tax increases because the residents overall just believe in the city having basic service and not convention centers, city-owned hotels and all the extras.
Also a very old-fashioned population that likes to talk about values, values, values. In-fact the city of Colorado Springs did not allow profanity in public for a time.
I have heard Oklahoma City and Tulsa are very socially conservative.
Cincinnati suburbs: are also some of the most conservative suburbs in the country. Very conservative for national and Ohio standards. Especially, on social issues compared to the burbs of Columbus and Cleveland.
Colorado Springs is very conservative. I read somewhere that it is one of the few places that has voted for a Democrat for any office. Denver is moderate and Boulder is liberal.
I think Roanoke Va. and Charlotte NC. are pretty conservative.
What cities are most conservative is the question. Hmm.
Yet another poster who has somehow construed the question to attack conservatives and call them dumb. Is this a good way to debate? I don't think so. If you want to be able to go online and bash conservatives I hear there are a lot of sites that specialize in this.
Another brilliant thesis; "These people don't know they are dumb." Profound! Maybe those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Thank you for your brilliant observation that Roanoke VA and Charlotte NC are pretty conservative cities. Its always re:assuring there is another conservative out there looking out for us all.
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