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Five years? Sorry I just don't buy that. Maybe back in the mid nineties when the then conservative goverment was trying to dismantle the system through chronic underfunding. Most people here wouldn't even dream of getting rid of the system, the NHS is something we're proud of. While there are wait times for non emergencies (typicaly two months tops) the system works for the most part. Is it perfect- no. European countries (such as France, Germany and Switzerland) have better systems than us with as good as no wait times.
The UK NHS is the third largest employer in the world. Can you imagine the bureaucracy we'd be facing to provide a system covering five times that many people?
Seriously, dude, you do not want to get into a debate of wits with me, i will happily put you in your place, very quickly.
I'm terrified.
Seriously, dude, buy a calculator.
Besides, the numbers you pulled out of your butt are so unrealistic and so far outside the norm for small businesses, it's utterly and completely laughable.
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Originally Posted by dorock99
if you're looking for intelligent debate, i advise you to refrain from petty insults.
I'm looking, but not finding anything resembling it in your posts.
Why don't you use your "basic 4th grade math skills" using more realistic numbers? Maybe then I'll take you seriously.
Did you read my entire post? Seriously, dude, you do not want to get into a debate of wits with me, i will happily put you in your place, very quickly. (Yea the gloves are off, i'm getting really tired of the people that are just spreading lies, because of their inability to think on their own)
Grade schoolers are the only ones who use the term "dude"
So, you are in 6th, maybe 7th grade? You certainly are not an adult.
Five years? Sorry I just don't buy that. Maybe back in the mid nineties when the then conservative goverment was trying to dismantle the system through chronic underfunding. Most people here wouldn't even dream of getting rid of the system, the NHS is something we're proud of. While there are wait times for non emergencies (typicaly two months tops) the system works for the most part. Is it perfect- no. European countries (such as France, Germany and Switzerland) have better systems than us with as good as no wait times.
Well, I'm admittedly no expert on medical care/insurance in other countries. But what I quoted is exactly what our friends said, and I've never known them to "exaggerate". I normally pick up on that sort of thing like radar. But this IS an older couple and their son is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. So maybe it was a communication issue, who knows?
Besides, the numbers you pulled out of your butt are so unrealistic and so far outside the norm for small businesses, it's utterly and completely laughable.
I'm looking, but not finding anything resembling it in your posts.
Why don't you use your "basic 4th grade math skills" using more realistic numbers? Maybe then I'll take you seriously.
Swagger, i'm not going to bother getting in a petty little debate with you if you feel the numbers i have listed are unrealistic, however, i challenge you to provide me with numbers, that you would find more realistic. Thus far you've offerd no empirical or conclusive evidence that would support your opinion or would validate your concerns with what i posted.
What would you find more realistic?
Please answer the following
How much do you think it cost to insure a family of 4? (monthly or yearly cost)
How much do you think it cost to insure a single person? (monthly or yearly cost)
How much of the total medical insurance cost in percentages do you think a company is willing to pick up?
What would you estimate as a good average salary for the business of your choice??
How many people would you assume choose Family (percentage wise) at this company of yours?
How many people would you assume choose Single Coverage (percentage wise) at the this company of yours?
How many total employees would you estimate work at this business of your choosing?
Answer these questions and I'll debate you with a sufficient rebuttal based on what you think are accurate numbers for those questions above.
Swagger, i'm not going to bother getting in a petty little debate with you if you feel the numbers i have listed are unrealistic, however, i challenge you to provide me with numbers, that you would find more realistic. Thus far you've offerd no empirical or conclusive evidence that would support your opinion or would validate your concerns with what i posted.
What would you find more realistic?
Please answer the following
How much do you think it cost to insure a family of 4? (monthly or yearly cost)
How much do you think it cost to insure a single person? (monthly or yearly cost)
How much of the total medical insurance cost in percentages do you think a company is willing to pick up?
What would you estimate as a good average salary for the business of your choice??
How many people would you assume choose Family (percentage wise) at this company of yours?
How many people would you assume choose Single Coverage (percentage wise) at the this company of yours?
How many total employees would you estimate work at this business of your choosing?
Answer these questions and I'll debate you with a sufficient rebuttal based on what you think are accurate numbers for those questions above.
OK this is for everyone else your bluster makes conversation with you impossible but for everyone else look at this.
The UK NHS is the third largest employer in the world. Can you imagine the bureaucracy we'd be facing to provide a system covering five times that many people?
At least they created those jobs and not outsourced them.
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