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Old 08-21-2009, 07:55 AM
 
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Obama seems to be oblivious that his unbridled SPENDING is what Americans fear most. After his "spendulous" package, his trillion dollar budget, his bailout of banks, takeover of the auto industry, multi-billion dollar "clunker" program. proposed trillion dollar government-run healthcare, and a possible second "stimulus", taxpayers are becoming concerned that Obama may be bankrupting this country.
WASHINGTON — A new poll says that Americans, concerned over the future of health care reform and anxious about the growing federal budget deficit, are losing faith in President Barack Obama.
Poll: Americans are losing confidence in Obama | Politics | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/6581494.html - broken link)
There are some who believe that bankrupting this country is the ultimate goal, so that socialism can be sold to the masses as the "only alternative left". After all, Rahm Emanuel and Saul Alinsky proposed that those in power, "never waste a crisis",...and a financial crisis can be the root cause of a strong central government.

As Obama's poll numbers keep falling and he's too stupid to figure out that more and more Americans are becoming aware of his agenda.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:02 AM
 
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Obama seems to be oblivious that his unbridled SPENDING is what Americans fear most. After his "spendulous" package, his trillion dollar budget, his bailout of banks, takeover of the auto industry, multi-billion dollar "clunker" program. proposed trillion dollar government-run healthcare, and a possible second "stimulus", taxpayers are becoming concerned that Obama may be bankrupting this country.
WASHINGTON — A new poll says that Americans, concerned over the future of health care reform and anxious about the growing federal budget deficit, are losing faith in President Barack Obama.
Poll: Americans are losing confidence in Obama | Politics | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/6581494.html - broken link)
There are some who believe that bankrupting this country is the ultimate goal, so that socialism can be sold to the masses as the "only alternative left". After all, Rahm Emanuel and Saul Alinsky proposed that those in power, "never waste a crisis",...and a financial crisis can be the root cause of a strong central government.

As Obama's poll numbers keep falling and he's too stupid to figure out that more and more Americans are becoming aware of his agenda.
Unfortunately the media and their liberal sheep, wants us to believe it is only the right wingnuts, who believe Obama will kill Grandma, that are the only ones holding up healthcare reform.

Really it is the mainstream Americans, small business owners, blue collar workers et al.. who are concerned about the fiscal welfare of this country. They understand there will be consequences to the horrendous amount of money and Government expansion the Obama administration wants to undertake.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:05 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Obama seems to be oblivious that his unbridled SPENDING is what Americans fear most. After his "spendulous" package, his trillion dollar budget, his bailout of banks, takeover of the auto industry, multi-billion dollar "clunker" program. proposed trillion dollar government-run healthcare, and a possible second "stimulus", taxpayers are becoming concerned that Obama may be bankrupting this country.
WASHINGTON — A new poll says that Americans, concerned over the future of health care reform and anxious about the growing federal budget deficit, are losing faith in President Barack Obama.
Poll: Americans are losing confidence in Obama | Politics | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/6581494.html - broken link)
There are some who believe that bankrupting this country is the ultimate goal, so that socialism can be sold to the masses as the "only alternative left". After all, Rahm Emanuel and Saul Alinsky proposed that those in power, "never waste a crisis",...and a financial crisis can be the root cause of a strong central government.

As Obama's poll numbers keep falling and he's too stupid to figure out that more and more Americans are becoming aware of his agenda.
Job cuts will end by spring and the economic recovery will be underway (the only real questions are "How much will the economy recover?" and "How fast?") as the stimulus money makes it's way out into the economy.

At that point his numbers will improve again.

As it is, his numbers are still higher than either Bush(2) or Clinton was at this stage.


http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...pp0605-31.html

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Old 08-21-2009, 08:06 AM
 
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I think the people who support the wild spending are those who have no concern or idea that some day it's got to be repaid.

To many Obama supporters, money is like manna from the sky. It's just there. The government can make more as it sees fit -- money isn't based on anything, isn't linked with national productivity, isn't something that must be confiscated from taxpayers.

So they do believe that free cars, free health care, free everything is possible and we really don't need jobs too much.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:17 AM
 
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Unfortunately the media and their liberal sheep, wants us to believe it is only the right wingnuts, who believe Obama will kill Grandma, that are the only ones holding up healthcare reform.

Really it is the mainstream Americans, small business owners, blue collar workers et al.. who are concerned about the fiscal welfare of this country. They understand there will be consequences to the horrendous amount of money and Government expansion the Obama administration wants to undertake.
Most rational taxpayers know that it is impossible to spend ones' way to prosperity, and realize that unchecked spending by this administration and a the democrat-controlled congress will ultimately have a negative effect upon our economy. Many taxpayers have saved, lived within our means, provided for our latter years, and have exercised personal fiscal responsibility, only to be faced with an uncertain economic future where the dollar may not be worth spit because of excessive government spending. It makes no difference how much you saved over a lifetime if it takes fifty hyperinflated dollars to buy a gallon of gasoline or a loaf of bread.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Job cuts will end by spring and the economic recovery will be underway (the only real questions are "How much will the economy recover?" and "How fast?") as the stimulus money makes it's way out into the economy.

At that point his numbers will improve again.

As it is, his numbers are still higher than either Bush(2) or Clinton was at this stage.


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Ken
No sitting president ever experienced this rate decline.

Economy improving next year? bwhahahahahahahahaha!!!!
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:23 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I think the people who support the wild spending are those who have no concern or idea that some day it's got to be repaid.

To many Obama supporters, money is like manna from the sky. It's just there. The government can make more as it sees fit -- money isn't based on anything, isn't linked with national productivity, isn't something that must be confiscated from taxpayers.

So they do believe that free cars, free health care, free everything is possible and we really don't need jobs too much.
I think you don't have a clue what the people who support the "wild spending" believe. You look at the statements of a few silly and ignorant folks on Youtube and draw the conclusion that MOST folks who support the stimulus think like that. That's wishfull thinking on your part.

The fact is, it's a crises and no one else was spending - the banks weren't loaning and money was locking up. In times like that it's ONLY the government who can get things moving again. That's why pretty much EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY around the world has launched some form of stimulus program. I rather doubt you know more than the economic powers that be around the world.

Are there risks?
Of course there are - but everyone is aware of them and the situation is being watched carefully. As the economy begins to recover sprending will be reigned back in (already some of the money set aside to help stablize the financial system has beenn "turned back in").

Ken
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:23 AM
 
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[quote=LordBalfor;10382085]Job cuts will end by spring and the economic recovery will be underway (the only real questions are "How much will the economy recover?" and "How fast?") as the stimulus money makes it's way out into the economy.

At that point his numbers will improve again.

As it is, his numbers are still higher than either Bush(2) or Clinton was at this stage.


I'm not concerned about "numbers" as much as I am about unfettered spending, the government printing presses shooting out money 24/7, and the real possibility of a worthless dollar. There are many who believe that if you "can't eat it, or stand on/in it",....then it's not worth having in this economic climate.

Hard to argue with that when the dollar is plunging and the printing presses just keep on running. Obama's "numbers" will be irrelevant if the dollar tanks.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Job cuts will end by spring and the economic recovery will be underway (the only real questions are "How much will the economy recover?" and "How fast?") as the stimulus money makes it's way out into the economy.

At that point his numbers will improve again.

As it is, his numbers are still higher than either Bush(2) or Clinton was at this stage.


I'm not concerned about "numbers" as much as I am about unfettered spending, the government printing presses shooting out money 24/7, and the real possibility of a worthless dollar. There are many who believe that if you "can't eat it, or stand on/in it",....then it's not worth having in this economic climate.

Hard to argue with that when the dollar is plunging and the printing presses just keep on running. Obama's "numbers" will be irrelevant if the dollar tanks.

The dollar won't tank - that's silly "panic" talk pushed by folks trying to sell gold. I do expect to see the dollar have a slow gradual decline over the next decade or so (as it has over the last couple of decades) - but thats hardly "tanking".

Ken
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Where were the Consevative sheep during this?

COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War

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the final price for
the war in Iraq is expected to
reach at least $3 trillion.
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Using conservative assumptions,
we calculate that the bill
for Bush-era excess—the total
new debt combined with the
total new accrued obligations—
amounts to $10.35 trillion.
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Medicare Part D The administration’s flagship prescription drug benefit program
is expected to cost $800 billion over the next decade. It is possible, though, that
the number will be larger. The program has been criticized because, unlike the department
of Veterans Affairs, Medicare does not negotiate bulk price discounts with
drug companies.
http://www.srwolf.com/reports/Stiglitz10trillion.pdf
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