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"The biggest problems thatwe're facingright now haveto do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all. And that's what I intend to reverse when I'm president of the United States." -- Sen. Barack Obama, March 31, 2008
"To say President Obama failed to follow through on this promise is an understatement. By appointing a virtual army of "czars" -- each wholly unaccountable to Congress yet tasked with spearheading major policy efforts for the White House -- in his first six months, the president has embarked on an end-run around the legislative branch of historic proportions."
How could it be unconstitutional? "Czar" is just a word. Get over it.
What planet do you spend your time on?
Read the Constitution. Then maybe you can understand what the big deal is. No one is allowed to be given royal title in this country. Now look at the definition of the word.
Noun1.-tsar- a male monarch or emperor (especially of Russia prior to 1917) czar, tzar
Now go and read the Constitution. You will see why this is not OK. I don't care if you want to overlook this, it is blatantly against the rules laid down for our country in the Constitution.
I have struggled not to say this because I just don't like to generalize too much, but you people(Obama supporters) will seemingly agree with anything this man does or says. Do you not realize that it is actually in our Constitution that no one is to be granted "title" like these men possess.
And then to further downplay it by calling them "advisors" is just ridiculous. These are not advisors, these men have powers and no accountability. These men are miny despots. This is not OK. If you want to support Obama, that's fine. But atleast have the presence of mind to realize and admit when the president's activities and policies do not jive with what is good and right for this country. If you are not familiar with the Constitution, and I mean the whole thing, you really should read it, comprehend it, and love it for the beautiful document that it is. And after that reading, finally admit to yourself that this president's (and others before him) policies and actions are often a slap in the face of our free country.
The men who wrote that document inserted protections for us and our freedom. And slowly but surely, the government is overlooking those checks and balances in favor of doing "their own thing" I don't care how happy or loudly your crowd cheers, or how often you say change. If your changes do not directly correspond with procedures and rules that already exist in our Constitution, it is not good change and should not be allowed. Please, just leave your prejudices at the door for a minute, and really look at some of the things we've allowed Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., and Reagan to do. We have not been vigilant, and we are really starting to pay the price.
Well, that about sums it up in a nice little package for the people that have a hard time understanding the ramifications of these czars.
I have struggled not to say this because I just don't like to generalize too much, but you people(Obama supporters) will seemingly agree with anything this man does or says. Do you not realize that it is actually in our Constitution that no one is to be granted "title" like these men possess.
And then to further downplay it by calling them "advisors" is just ridiculous. These are not advisors, these men have powers and no accountability. These men are miny despots. This is not OK. If you want to support Obama, that's fine. But atleast have the presence of mind to realize and admit when the president's activities and policies do not jive with what is good and right for this country. If you are not familiar with the Constitution, and I mean the whole thing, you really should read it, comprehend it, and love it for the beautiful document that it is. And after that reading, finally admit to yourself that this president's (and others before him) policies and actions are often a slap in the face of our free country.
The men who wrote that document inserted protections for us and our freedom. And slowly but surely, the government is overlooking those checks and balances in favor of doing "their own thing" I don't care how happy or loudly your crowd cheers, or how often you say change. If your changes do not directly correspond with procedures and rules that already exist in our Constitution, it is not good change and should not be allowed. Please, just leave your prejudices at the door for a minute, and really look at some of the things we've allowed Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., and Reagan to do. We have not been vigilant, and we are really starting to pay the price.
really? I mean really? All you can say is something about the term "czar"? Really Idahogie? Come on, I know I don't give you much credit for your points of view, but I KNOW you're smarter than this.
Trying to stay away from those big words that confuse you.
It's more than that. These people can bypass all the checks and balances built into the branches of the government.
To do what?
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It is an accumulation of power within the Executive branch over which Congress has no power. It is going the opposite way of the transparency Obama promised. It diminshes the power of Congress.
Please elaborate.
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Originally Posted by cleoT
A czar is more than an advisor. Much more.
How? Please elaborate
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Originally Posted by ViewFromThePeak
True. Stalin was just a "premier" and Hitler was still just a "chancellor". There wasn't any REAL power behind that name.
No, there's not. If you're freaked out about "czar", which has been used by presidents since FDR, you've got a problem.
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Originally Posted by Reads2MUCH
I have struggled not to say this because I just don't like to generalize too much, but you people(Obama supporters) will seemingly agree with anything this man does or says.
Bull.
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Do you not realize that it is actually in our Constitution that no one is to be granted "title" like these men possess.
Where? Please cite words from the constitution, not from some RW website.
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And then to further downplay it by calling them "advisors" is just ridiculous. These are not advisors, these men have powers and no accountability. These men are miny despots.
What powers do they have? Are they all men? Are there no czarinas?
Read the Constitution. Then maybe you can understand what the big deal is. No one is allowed to be given royal title in this country. Now look at the definition of the word.
Noun1.-tsar- a male monarch or emperor (especially of Russia prior to 1917) czar, tzar
Now go and read the Constitution. You will see why this is not OK. I don't care if you want to overlook this, it is blatantly against the rules laid down for our country in the Constitution.
perhaps you should take it up with Nixon and Reagan then. From what I am reading, they were the first US presidents in recent history to appoint "czars".
Read the Constitution. Then maybe you can understand what the big deal is. No one is allowed to be given royal title in this country. Now look at the definition of the word.
Noun1.-tsar- a male monarch or emperor (especially of Russia prior to 1917) czar, tzar
Now go and read the Constitution. You will see why this is not OK. I don't care if you want to overlook this, it is blatantly against the rules laid down for our country in the Constitution.
Oh, come on. Can we have grown-up talk, please?
The word czar is a short-hand term that got slapped on by media and picked up by everybody.
Nobody except dim-witted fools believe that advisors that are now called 'czars' are royalty, for god's sake. What utter stupidity.
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