A Liberal Mother's Logic (education, state, children, work)
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A liberal thinking mother of a college aged student was asked did she think it was fair or right for her child to be denied admission to a good university over a less qualified minority student? She unequivocally stated yes it was fair because that minority student, unfortunately, has not had the same opportunities as her priviledged child, and thus it would be fair for that less qualified minority to be admitted into a good university.
Is this madness or not? I am a black male, and I believe in fairness for all. But I was just floored when I heard that this liberal thinking mother give, basically, a politically correct answer while denying her own child the same opportunity that she wants to see a less qualified minority child have. I don't understand the logic there at all.
It's a pretty stupid question, people don't get into their first choice college all the time, for any number of reason. There would never be a situation where someone didn't get into college because a less qualified minority "took their spot" because they never had a spot. And if they are well qualified they would get in somewhere just as good so no "opportunity" was lost.
Because the question is bogus the answer doesn't even matter.
It's a pretty stupid question, people don't get into their first choice college all the time, for any number of reason. There would never be a situation where someone didn't get into college because a less qualified minority "took their spot" because they never had a spot. And if they are well qualified they would get in somewhere just as good so no "opportunity" was lost.
Because the question is bogus the answer doesn't even matter.
I tried, I really did to figure out the logic of your argument, but it just wasn't there.
The question is stupid because there are different reasons why someone might not get into a college? What kind of logic is that, the question focused on one aspect of why someone would be denied entrance to a college.
It seems your entire argument is based on, to bad for the kids, but don't worry you will get into some other college so everything is okay. That is a load of rubbish and you know it, if a kid gets denied say Harvard and ends up being stuck in a State college, do you really think they will have the same chances in the work place as the kid who got the Harvard spot?
It's a pretty stupid question, people don't get into their first choice college all the time, for any number of reason. There would never be a situation where someone didn't get into college because a less qualified minority "took their spot" because they never had a spot. And if they are well qualified they would get in somewhere just as good so no "opportunity" was lost.
Because the question is bogus the answer doesn't even matter.
This is not an issue of whether or not the child would still get accepted into another university. It's an issue of whether that qualified child over a less qualified minority child doesn't get accepted into a very good university of his or her first choice.
This topic was discussed on the Michael Savage show, and he was just ranting about the way in which some liberals think even with matters concerning their own children.
What Ceece said. Besides which, the fact that she thinks it would be "fair", doesn't mean she would "deny her own child the same opportunity that she wants to see a less qualified minority child have."
Who said she wants the minority to have the opportunity over her own child? I'm pretty sure she wants her own child to have the opportunity to get the best education she can. But if someone else gets in before her child, she wouldn't necessarily think it was unfair.
I mean, I want a pony, but I don't think it's unfair that guy who was selling it chose to sell it to the person with less riding experience than I have.
What Ceece said. Besides which, the fact that she thinks it would be "fair", doesn't mean she would "deny her own child the same opportunity that she wants to see a less qualified minority child have."
Who said she wants the minority to have the opportunity over her own child? I'm pretty sure she wants her own child to have the opportunity to get the best education she can. But if someone else gets in before her child, she wouldn't necessarily think it was unfair.
I mean, I want a pony, but I don't think it's unfair that guy who was selling it chose to sell it to the person with less riding experience than I have.
Good point. I wonder would you think it was fair for the guy to sell the pony to someone who has a child with less riding experience than yours?
Unless college applicants are nothing more than the sum of their SAT scores this isn't an issue. Colleges choose students based on many criteria, one of which can be having a well rounded or diverse incoming freshman class. The "less qualified minority student" might have something to offer that the one with the higher test scores did not. That's how admissions work.
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This is not an issue of whether or not the child would still get accepted into another university. It's an issue of whether that qualified child over a less qualified minority child doesn't get accepted into a very good university of his or her first choice.
This topic was discussed on the Michael Savage show, and he was just ranting about the way in which some liberals think even with matters concerning their own children.
It's setting up a false scenario in the first place so there is no right or wrong answer. It's not a "liberal" issue so why try to make it one?
A liberal thinking mother of a college aged student was asked did she think it was fair or right for her child to be denied admission to a good university over a less qualified minority student? She unequivocally stated yes it was fair because that minority student, unfortunately, has not had the same opportunities as her priviledged child, and thus it would be fair for that less qualified minority to be admitted into a good university.
Is this madness or not? I am a black male, and I believe in fairness for all. But I was just floored when I heard that this liberal thinking mother give, basically, a politically correct answer while denying her own child the same opportunity that she wants to see a less qualified minority child have. I don't understand the logic there at all.
I see no links, and it sounds like you pulled this story out of your ass in order to make "liberal thinking" sound illogical. I am a "liberal" (socially far left but fiscally just left of center) and I think the mother's answer is ridiculous. I don't believe it is true, but even if it was, it does not exemplify "liberal thinking" at all. Ask a good cross-section, say 1000 people, and then come back and report their answers.
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