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Old 08-27-2009, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Who said farmers can't use their own seed?
Monsanto said they cannot and are taking farmers to court and winning.
This is seed purchased from Monsanto originally.
Or even if a field of Monsanto seed cross pollinates with a field of non-Monsanto seed, Monsanto can demand payment from that farmer.

Monsanto has patents and deep pockets.
They are now experimenting with livestock genes.

 
Old 08-27-2009, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Monsanto said they cannot and are taking farmers to court and winning.
This is seed purchased from Monsanto originally.
Or even if a field of Monsanto seed cross pollinates with a field of non-Monsanto seed, Monsanto can demand payment from that farmer.

Monsanto has patents and deep pockets.
They are now experimenting with livestock genes.
Again, thats IF they buy the Monsanto seed in the first place. They are perfectly capable of growing their own corn, thats not based on Monsanto seed, and keep whatever grain they want for next years crops.

Monsanto has a point, they spent lots of money genetically engineering their corn to have higher yield, and less susceptive to disease and pests.
 
Old 08-27-2009, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Not long ago, I read a news article about genetically engineered foods. Check it out: when you mess around with the genetics of a plant, you're producing something that looks like corn, cooks like corn, even tastes like corn. But in real terms, you're creating something that has never before existed on the face of the Earth. You might as well be stuffing a plant from another planet into your mouth--you have no idea what it's going to do to your body either in the short or the long term.

In another few generations, when mutants become commonplace, perhaps people will begin to question genetic engineering of the foods we consume. Until then, hey, what's for dinner?
 
Old 08-27-2009, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Again, thats IF they buy the Monsanto seed in the first place. They are perfectly capable of growing their own corn, thats not based on Monsanto seed, and keep whatever grain they want for next years crops.
If the wind blows and cross pollinates a non-Monsanto field, Monsanto sues for patent infringement.

Here's one farmer's story (there's plenty of others):
Agricultural Giant Battles Small Farmers - CBS Evening News - CBS News
 
Old 08-27-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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Most fruit and vegetables you buy from the grocery store are genetically engineered.
Most of your meats and milk are full of growth hormones.

This is the future of food production or we'll be heading into soylent green territory.
Funny thing:

Since GMO stuff first entered the marketplace, food-borne illness is up by 50%.
 
Old 08-27-2009, 06:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979 View Post
Again, thats IF they buy the Monsanto seed in the first place. They are perfectly capable of growing their own corn, thats not based on Monsanto seed, and keep whatever grain they want for next years crops.

Monsanto has a point, they spent lots of money genetically engineering their corn to have higher yield, and less susceptive to disease and pests.
One of the problems with this is the spread of pollen from genetically engineered plants spreading to other fields. Also, the next iteration of genetic engineering in crops (if it has not yet been done) is to create crops that will die without specific fertilizers that you can only buy from Monsanto, and ones whose seeds will not germinate, requiring you to buy your seeds every season. Monsanto already sues its customers if it suspects they have not bought enough seed to justify their crop sales.

Monsanto is also maneuvering itself into taking control of the vegetable seed market. Allowing any one company to take control of large portions of our food supply is dangerous as hell.

Source: ETC Group - Publications - Global Seed Industry Concentration - 2005 (http://www.etcgroup.org/en/materials/publications.html?pub_id=48 - broken link)

And mistakes are being made all the time - like Monsanto accidentally harvesting and using genetically modified cotton seeds that were not approved for release. Oops.

Source: Unapproved GM cotton may have entered US food supply - National Rural News - Agribusiness and General - General - Stock & Land
 
Old 08-27-2009, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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If the wind blows and cross pollinates a non-Monsanto field, Monsanto sues for patent infringement.

Here's one farmer's story (there's plenty of others):
Agricultural Giant Battles Small Farmers - CBS Evening News - CBS News
They didn't sue over cross pollination, they did try and sue because they said that the farmer was growing it without their consent. They tried to claim that the farmer was just getting their seed, and they were just growing it. However, the farmer won his lawsuit.

No different than any other corporation suing someone over patent infringement.

I disagree with it, and Monsanto lied about the agreement with Indiana. I think Indiana should file suit against Monsanto for falsifying about that supposed document.
 
Old 08-27-2009, 07:05 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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hundreds of millions of people throughout the world have consumed countless tons of genetically modified corn and soy products. i'm not seeing a problem here.



also, europe is coming along [their companies have been cashing in since the beginning]-

Quote:
Aug 27, 2009
The European Union Commission recommended Wednesday that farmers be allowed to plant two new varieties of genetically modified corn, an endorsement that if approved, could ease restrictions against U.S. corn and corn traits.
all the anti-GMO people howl about monsanto, but never a peep about the gigantic european transgenic producers bayer, aventis, syngenta, etc.
 
Old 08-27-2009, 07:11 PM
 
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hundreds of millions of people throughout the world have consumed countless tons of genetically modified corn and soy products. i'm not seeing a problem here.



also, europe is coming along [their companies have been cashing in since the beginning]-



all the anti-GMO people howl about monsanto, but never a peep about the gigantic european transgenic producers bayer, aventis, syngenta, etc.
So what do you attribute the 50% rise in food-borne illness to then?
 
Old 08-27-2009, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Pepsi makes Doritos.
The genetically engineered corn is shipped in from Kenya and then distributed from a warehouse in Chicago. Records (Palin's latest post on Facebook) show that both Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers are on the deed to that warehouse. Prior evidence suggest that ACORN has been asking the government for help to continue the engineering of this corn with tax payer money, and therefore push along it's socialist agenda. A current study by UHC also concludes that the complex molecular make up of this corn can cause difficulties with pregnant women and that sometimes these Doritos are used in lieu of the morning after pill by liberals!!!!!

Aren't you angry about all this? It's really an outrage.
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