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View Poll Results: Who do you trust with your life?
I trust government to take care of me. 11 15.94%
Health care corporations will always take care of me 2 2.90%
Neither one give a damn about me, 56 81.16%
Voters: 69. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-31-2009, 09:02 AM
 
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We do already, it is called Medicare.

Private....like Blue Cross Blue etc. You pay for it ALL~
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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OK then I think me and thousands of my collegues will find something else to do. I hope your government employee can do brain surgery too.
if you really are a health care provider you know that "government employees" wont take the place of doctors
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:09 AM
 
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I think all the Republicans and Conservatives who don't believe in government run healthcare, should go out and buy private insurance policies for their elderly family members.

When they do that, I will believe them~
So you are saying liberals are not willing to provide for their elderly family members? How heartless of you.

Some of us DO provide for our older relatives, at great personal expense. You know why we do it? Because it is our responsibility. Do liberals remember what that word means? I will give you a hint, it DOESN'T mean waiting for the government to fix everything for you.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Private....like Blue Cross Blue etc. You pay for it ALL~

As soon as we stopped getting charged for Medicare and social security.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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if you really are a health care provider you know that "government employees" wont take the place of doctors
But government will dictate reimbursement. It is a distinction without a difference.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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But government will dictate reimbursement. It is a distinction without a difference.
?

You had said, "I hope your government employee can do brain surgery too."

The billing clerk is not also the brain surgeon, I hope.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:50 AM
 
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I see inefficient programs being cut in the business world (even if it takes a long time), however with government I don't see inefficient/ineffetive programs going away - I see increases in taxes and increases in national debt.

Either way, trusting a health insurance company or the government to take care of you is a foolish thing to do.
When was the last time you saw an increase the income tax? When was the last time you saw an increase in your health insurance premium?
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:59 AM
 
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You sound like you still work for government, all cozy and safe from competition, standards, efficiency, timeliness, scruples...
I'm retired I spent 38 years working in my chosen field. Two of them working for the government. I quit there do to low pay and to many rules.

Please show me one corporation that has scruples. For Christ sake corporations will pry the gold out of your teeth if they get the chance.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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Ummm didn't Obama say changing the government is like turning the Titanic? Also I don't want to wait potentially 2 years to make changes. That is the difference between government and private enterprise. Private enterprise is nimble and can change on a dime. Can government? I don't think so.
Yea I seen how nimble the insurance companies are. AIG
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:15 AM
 
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When was the last time you saw an increase the income tax? When was the last time you saw an increase in your health insurance premium?


Without reform, health insurance rates to nearly double in 11 years (http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/22/insurance-rates-double/ - broken link)

Welcome to the White House: Issues: Taxes
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