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Old 09-10-2009, 04:12 AM
 
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If not for Beck and FOX News, we wouldn't know any of this stuff.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:17 AM
 
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If not for Beck and FOX News, we wouldn't know any of this stuff.
Hahaha! THEY KNOW!
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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"My simplest suggestion is that private citizens should be given the right to bring suits to prevent animals from being treated in a way that violates current law. I offer a recommendation that is theoretically modest but that should do a lot of practical good: laws designed to protect animals against cruelty and abuse should be amended and interpreted to give a private cause of action against those who violate them, so as to allow private people to supplement the efforts of public prosecutors. Somewhat more broadly, I will suggest that animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives, to prevent violations of current law."

In a speech at Harvard in 2007, Sunstein argued there is "a real gap" in the laws governing animal cruelty laws, essentially that prosecutors have a monopoly in making sure those laws are followed. "The law should be changed to give affected persons, interested persons, those who have some sort of connection with the animal, a right to sue either for damages or for an injunction to get that violation of what is standard already in law to stop."
Politifact comments,
But we think LaPierre has twisted Sunstein's words. Sunstein wasn't saying you — the meat eater — could be sued by Porky Pig for eating bacon. But he was saying that if the pig that winds up on your breakfast plate was raised or killed in a way that violates existing animal cruelty laws, then someone ought to be able to sue the processor on the pig's behalf. That's all, folks.
PolitiFact | Sunstein has said people ought to be able to sue on behalf of abused animals
That's NOT all, folks.

Readers may not be savvy about law, but there is a wide gap between folks who are obligated to obey rules and regulations versus those who are not obligated to obey.

Animals have no rights, under law. And the animal cruelty laws are only applicable to those who are liable to obey said laws. In fact, when you delve into them, you'll find that the constitutional authority for regulation stems from the law being only applicable to those IN THE GOVERNMENT, itself.

Remember, pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, governments are instituted to (a) secure rights [life, liberty, property, etc] and (b) govern those who consent.

If you think about it - how could conscription be legal? Being ordered to train, fight and die, on command, is a definite violation of one's right to life, liberty, etc.

However, in the definition of the obligated parties, it is always qualified by "CITIZEN".

Most Americans are not informed that American nationals (sovereign people) are distinct from U.S. citizens. Citizens, by definition, are subjects, obligated to perform civic duties. If citizenship could be imposed, at birth, it would be involuntary servitude and thus unconstitutional.

Generations of indoctrination and propaganda have resulted in a populace that is easily managed and manipulated in their ignorance.

Don't believe me - go to your county courthouse law library and look it up for yourself.

Pay attention to the terms: inhabitant, domicile, national, private property, natural liberty, personal liberty, and sovereignty.

You should find that the servant government has not infringed upon the rights of the sovereign people, the free inhabitants, the American nationals, who are domiciled within the boundaries of these united States of America.

But if you're a U.S. citizen, residing as a resident at a residence, duly enumerated and enrolled into national socialism, engaged in usury with the banks, you're toast.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:22 AM
 
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GO BECK! Expose these nut cases in hussein obama's administration!
Expose yourself to the President Obama's correct name.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:26 AM
 
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That's NOT all, folks.

Readers may not be savvy about law, but there is a wide gap between folks who are obligated to obey rules and regulations versus those who are not obligated to obey.[....]
None of that remotely has to do with Cass Sunstein, or animal cruelty laws, except this

"Animals have no rights, under law. And the animal cruelty laws are only applicable to those who are liable to obey said laws. In fact, when you delve into them, you'll find that the constitutional authority for regulation stems from the law being only applicable to those IN THE GOVERNMENT, itself"

which doesnt make sense.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:29 AM
 
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Expose yourself to the President Obama's correct name.


Barry Soetoro
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:34 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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We don't need a nutcase like Sunstein in such a position. How any sane person could defend him I don't know.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:54 AM
 
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We don't need a nutcase like Sunstein in such a position. How any sane person could defend him I don't know.
PolitiFact | Sunstein has said people ought to be able to sue on behalf of abused animals
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:59 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default More Beck Fear Mongering

Has anyone else heard the story about Beck raping and killing a young girl in 1990?

Why doesn't he come clean on this?

http://gawker.com/5355901/glenn-beck...g-girl-in-1990
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:07 AM
 
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Has anyone else heard the story about Beck raping and killing a young girl in 1990?

Why doesn't he come clean on this?

Glenn Beck, PR Genius, Spreads the False Rumor He Raped and Murdered a Young Girl in 1990 - glenn beck - Gawker

That must have been the night that Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd made that waitress sandwich

Kennedy-Dodd Waitress Sandwich :: WRAL.com
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