Where are you on the abortion spectrum? (speech, state, voted)

[burdell]

Originally Posted by groar

that is awful, and i apologize for assuming it was a hypothetical situation, but one incident does not mean it's typical.

Nor does one tabloid article mean it's factual.

[tstone]

Interesting poll results. I have to wonder who in here that voted actually have kids of their own.

[rayneinspain]

Originally Posted by tstone

Interesting poll results. I have to wonder who in here that voted actually have kids of their own.

That's easy.

Start a poll and find out the correlation.

[Faworki1947]

my two cents and agreement with the followingh quote

I do believe we should focus on reducing the amount of abortions, and the best way to do that is to focus on prevention and education. Stronger pre-natal care, stronger comprehensive sex education, unrestricted access to things such as the morning after pill.

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by J'aimeDesVilles

Nice slanted poll! Nearly all the options are "illegal"

And the terms...For starters no one is pro-abortion. They are in favor of giving the woman a choice to have an abortion or not. Hence the name.

Secondly pro-life is inaccurate. Anti-abortion would be more correct. If someone were truly pro-life they would be a pacifist, vegetarian that is pro-stem cell, anti-capital punishment and anti-hunting. I wonder how many "pro-lifers" fit this definition?

Which side of the issue considers the life of the child as a factor? Isn't that the issue here? Aren't people voting for when they think the fetus is a human being, and wish abortion to be banned at that point, except in extreme cases?

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by burdell

There is however mention of promoting the general welfare.

1794, James Madison:

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."

Promoting it, not paying for it.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Wapasha

1794, James Madison:

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."

Promoting it, not paying for it.

Only one man's opinion, what else ya got?

[Boompa]

Abortion should be legal until the 75th trimester

[irspow]

1794, James Madison:

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."

Promoting it, not paying for it.

Besides, anyone who knows how to read will actually finish reading Article 1 Section 8 to see specifically what is meant by the terms "common defense" and "general welfare". I love the trolls who take that simple term from the very first sentence completely out of context while ignoring the rest of the Section clarifying the initial statement. Obviously many people only read the first sentence of paragraphs these days and think that they understand its meaning. Do they still have writing or language courses offered in schools?

Also, any logical person would understand that if the Federal Government was meant to be able to do anything to provide for the common defense and general welfare then this would not follow that sentence:


To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

[machiavelli1]

Wow, 29 people so far believe murder is ok