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Love CBS Sunday Morning.... great show, but this morning they covered the anti Obama movement by many Conservatives. They portrayed these groups and their demonstrations in a very negative way. Referred to them as "militant" groups. Interviewed Barney Frank and portrayed him as a sane voice of reason to this whole thing. They "blamed" Fox News and Glen Beck for this rising movement (as opposed to Obama and Liberals having something to do with it). Criticized Beck's labeling of "main stream media" as "fringe media" as if that was crazy.
Do they just not get it? Do they really think they are covering this issue objectively?
They did a piece on Health Care Reform a few weeks back that was blatantly pro- Obama. Is this a concerted effort to support the Left? Or- are they so blind, that they do not even realize they are favoring the Left? The arrogance is mind blowing.
CBS probably has polling data that shows people who voted for Obama are more likely to be their viewers so they are playing to their audience. It also served them to bash Bush with that same audience. I'm sure the NY Times data shows that same demo for their operation. I think it is no different on any other broadcast or cable TV news channel.
Example: MSNBC made a bad decision to go for the niche audience of far left liberals figuring to be the anti-Fox and tapping into that far left group of people. There just aren't that many far left liberals even counting the White House. More moderate liberals are spread among all of the other TV liberal news outlets. One of the reasons Fox News has such high ratings is because it's the only TV place to go for conservatives. If another conservative news network sprung up, their ratings might be lower.
The only place where it is different is HBO (Bill Maher). They just play to Hollywood. Because they have no ratings or advertisers they are in business for awards so their news shows and documentaries have to appeal to the people who vote for those awards. When they get awards then they can say they have award winning series/documentaries so they can woo new subscribers for HBO. In other words, individual HBO shows' audience numbers don't matter.
CBS is doing what it thinks will get them an audience.
One small correction if you don't mind. We are out-of-touch, scatter-brained, loose-cannon, fringe types who claim proposed legislation contains "death panels" resulting in much mockery by the left and the removal of the language in question.
The language allows doctors who consult with patients in response to their requests for information to be paid for the time that it takes them to do that. The language will reappear in a more idiot-proof form in the Conference Committee Report.
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We claim certain "Czars" are radicals and communists unfit for service in the federal government. We are mocked for being paranoid and delusional and the Czars in question resign under fire.
He resigns because the entirely paranoid and delusional behavior of some fringers has become a distraction to the administration. The fringers merely move on to whine pointlessly about something else.
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Privately owned computers being connected to a government website were becoming government property per the site disclaimer until one of our paranoids drew attention to it. Then the policy was changed.
No, the policy remained exactly the same. The wording of the Privacy Act disclaimer on the CARS.com dealer-gateway page was merely made more idiot-proof.
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Emails we being sent out to citizens who never had contact with the White House indicating a mailing list existed in violation of their privacy rights. Attention was drawn to it, and it was ended along with the rat on your neighbor website.
A private sector entity registered its members with the WH site without telling them. Rat-on-your-neighbor is apparently the right-wing version of Can-my-idiot-neighbor-possibly-be-right-about-this?
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BO wanted to spend a little unsupervised time with our kids. A lesson plan was prepared that asked our kids "What is the president asking me to do?" The lesson plan was dropped without so much as a whimper after "racist" parents lost their minds.
Yes, we couldn't have the President speak to kids and advise them to be good, work hard, do their homework, and play a little less X-Box. That would be a violation of parental rights to sit on the couch with a beer watching Glenn Beck while Junior is surfing hard-core porn sites down in the basement.
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BO was called a liar during his SOTU speech. After more accusations of racism, language was quietly added to prevent illegals from being covered by any new insurance.
The SOTU is typically in January, and language that already prevented illegal aliens from receiving government subsidies for the purchase of health insurance was once again made more idiot-proof.
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ACORN...well, we know.
No, you DON'T know. You are once again found only at the wrong end of that famous garden path.
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Not bad for a drunk, a quitter and a bunch of racist teabaggin' rednecks.
I'd agree. The sad part is that what has to count as "not bad" for these folks would be examples of over-the-edge calamitous disgrace if it were any group of actually rational people that was involved.
So, you admit that before repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, Walter Cronkite was The Most Trusted Man in America, and after repeal of the Fairness Doctrine by you right-wingers, public trust in the media is at all time lows!!! Thanks for proving my point!!!
Are you making up coversations with yourself? Lets review what I said..
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I dont think sanrene said any such thing..
Nope.. didnt say that..
Looks like those little voices are talking to you again...
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Stepping back out of character so as to be no longer practicing my <pghquest> impression, it appears that you actually have no idea at all of what the Fairness Doctrine was or what restrictions and requirements it would impose if it were to be revived. After Dennis Ross and Jeff Jones, this doesn't really come as much of a shock.
Was that your attempt to disprove the fact that most of the major news organizations reported that those attending the 912 rally were all right wing finaticals who portrayed Obama as a "Hitler", and you think the only way to get them to stop reporting those at these rallies in this method is to support the "Fairness Doctrine"? You have very low expectations of the news media if you think that you need to legislate them from being biased, as if their viewer ratings tanking isnt sending them a sign that the public doesnt want to watch their crap, and that the only way to save them from their own self destriction is government..
CBS probably has polling data that shows people who voted for Obama are more likely to be their viewers so they are playing to their audience. It also served them to bash Bush with that same audience. I'm sure the NY Times data shows that same demo for their operation. I think it is no different on any other broadcast or cable TV news channel.
I actually do not agree with this.... I feel that a right leaning Network newscast would take 50% of the audience off the bat.
The NY Times is basically going out of business, so if they are doing polls telling them to do what they are doing.... they need to take some new polls.
Saganista- I know your type.... some people WANT the argument. There are some people on the Right and Left that will never cede ANY point of middle ground. Never a gray area. It is always black & white with extremists.
Arguing in favor of the "Fairness" Doctrine is pathetic.
You have to excuse Saganista, her government job has to much cushion in it and has no where to turn other than resulting in fluff coming out of her mouth..
Love CBS Sunday Morning.... great show, but this morning they covered the anti Obama movement by many Conservatives. They portrayed these groups and their demonstrations in a very negative way. Referred to them as "militant" groups. Interviewed Barney Frank and portrayed him as a sane voice of reason to this whole thing. They "blamed" Fox News and Glen Beck for this rising movement (as opposed to Obama and Liberals having something to do with it). Criticized Beck's labeling of "main stream media" as "fringe media" as if that was crazy.
Do they just not get it? Do they really think they are covering this issue objectively?
They did a piece on Health Care Reform a few weeks back that was blatantly pro- Obama. Is this a concerted effort to support the Left? Or- are they so blind, that they do not even realize they are favoring the Left? The arrogance is mind blowing.
What's there to "get"? The majority of Americans think this so-called "rising movement" is full of uneducated fruitcakes. You can't expect most Americans to take these people seriously when they march around with "I Didn't Bring a Gun. THIS time" and "Obama=Hitler," and other racist signs, all the time blathering nonsense they repeat, verbatim, from FOX?
The "majority" that exists, if you look at the election was only a 6% difference. So whenever you are talking about the kooks that you disagree with you are really talking about half of the country. I mean even I am willing to admit that the leftists are half of the country. Plus, aren't all of the collectivists the righteous proctectors of the minority? Maybe, as I already know, they pick and choose which minorities that they deem worthy of protection and which they shall punish according to whim.
You can't expect most Americans to take these people seriously
Two things.... 1) You are being shown the extreme visuals via the MSM and 2) people actually protesting in public are more extreme than a LOT of voters that agree with some or a great deal of what they are saying.
Ignore and belittle this as much as you like. See you at the 2010 elections... at this pace they will go very POORLY for the Left. Deny this all you like.
What's there to "get"? The majority of Americans think this so-called "rising movement" is full of uneducated fruitcakes. You can't expect most Americans to take these people seriously when they march around with "I Didn't Bring a Gun. THIS time" and "Obama=Hitler," and other racist signs, all the time blathering nonsense they repeat, verbatim, from FOX?
I mean, come on.
Every protest will have its own share of wackos.
There isnt ONE CNN.com story on the protests who dont comment about how the protests are full of these "kooks", so if this is your only sort of news, you would think thats what the protests were about.
While I didnt attend the events, (um, better things to do with my time), I very well doubt that you can get 500,000 kooks in this country to a dinner, let alone a protest across the country.
The other issue with the way these protests are being reported, is that they wrongfully paint the image that these protests are anti Obama.. Ok, again, some of these protestors are probably KKK, racist, religious, finatical anarchists, but the fact is, these protests are more anit-government than they are anti-Obama. Obama, of course now being the face of the dispute because of his pro-government stance on just about everything he wants to do..
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