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More than anything he challenges the things that are pushed through the media from our officials. If he points out issues how can we not benefit?
He is one of the few voices that question the status quo. More power to him. I'd rather hear his questions than RL's constant crap. I do wish he would loose some weight for his own good. There have been a few people that look behind the curtain and I glad he does. Is his view always perfect? no but at least it offers something to think about, well unless you are fromt he right wing and prefer not to be questioned or challenged.
Of course he is. Anything to get people thinking. I saw "Fahrenheit 9/11" on its opening night in a sold-out theater in Tulsa, OK at the height of the Bush era, 2004. (Every theater within 100+ mile radius of my town refused to show it.) You could FEEL the relief and the excited engagement in the audience to hear someone -- even an electronic voice -- expressing what even folks in reddest America had been thinking, suspecting, wondering about all those years and hadnt dared say out loud. That was a chilling experience.
What amuses me is that in the richest, most powerful country in the history of the world there's only ONE major political documentarian. And it's Michael Moore! Whose heart is in the right place but who's not perfect.
Michael Moore doesn't represent facts, he's said that himself (in not so many words).
His movies are satirical. He found his niche and he's running, as fast as an obese man can, with it.
He appeals to anyone who doesn't care about facts or lives for rhetoric or for those who need to find a reason to think anyone who votes other than for the democratic party is some big fat white guy making $5million dollars a year.
Just isn't so.
And he lives off of capitalism, but hates it? He's just laughing all the way to the bank.
He should takes his millions of dollars, move to a socialistic country and try to make his movies about anything he doesn't like within that socialistic government. See how far he gets trying it elsewhere. That's how NOT serious he is.
Ann Coulter backs her OPINIONS up with facts. That is the major difference. Doesn't mean I agree with her, it's just the way it is. MM takes scenarios and hypes them up to the point where he's got a movie going and if you believe 1/2 the garbage he's spewing you'd want to get your passport updated, pack up and move to Afghanistan (b/c it's just that much better and simpler there).
Michael Moore is nothing other than an opportunist. People who actually think he's got something to say that means anything....are missing the fact that he's CAPITALIZING on their views and making a lot of money in the process.
He's no dummy, just another taste of Hollyweird gone bad.
This is a perfect example of the Dumbing Down of America. It also explains why Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin make the NYT bestseller list, and why people take Glen Beck seriously.
Of course he is. Anything to get people thinking. I saw "Fahrenheit 9/11" on its opening night in a sold-out theater in Tulsa, OK at the height of the Bush era, 2004. (Every theater within 100+ mile radius of my town refused to show it.) You could FEEL the relief and the excited engagement in the audience to hear someone -- even an electronic voice -- expressing what even folks in reddest America had been thinking, suspecting, wondering about all those years and hadnt dared say out loud. That was a chilling experience.
What amuses me is that in the richest, most powerful country in the history of the world there's only ONE major political documentarian. And it's Michael Moore! Whose heart is in the right place but who's not perfect.
I second that emotion! The ancient Greeks certainly understood this; Socrates spoke of the need for "gadflies." People may try to denigrate him,
but Roger and Me has proven to be almost prophetic. Michael Moore does
good work on behalf of the American people, and I respect him for that; as you urge, delusianne...get busy, people!
I second that emotion! The ancient Greeks certainly understood this; Socrates spoke of the need for "gadflies." People may try to denigrate him,
but Roger and Me has proven to be almost prophetic. Michael Moore does
good work on behalf of the American people, and I respect him for that; as you urge, delusianne...get busy, people!
I started to mention how ahead of its time Roger & Me was but didnt want to get the idjits all tiresomely confused. Anyway ANYONE can make a Michael Moore video. Michael Moore did! All you have to do is care enough.
It really sounds like you have not watched many Docs, although I'm sure you will come back and say that you have seen every one of Moores' films.
His new film doesn't criticize capitalism, it criticizes excess, greed and the flawed "capitalism" that the US govt employs.
The question is do you even know what a documentary is? It's a genre' and a very wide one at that. There's no rule that says a documentry must be entirely factual or complete in all details so, that it's not misleading in any way. Here's a quote from wikipedia (the link for which follows below):
I've seen plenty of documentaries, there are a lot of different sub genre' now for them....look under "See Also" at the bottom of that wikipedia link. Oliver stones movies are considered documentaries....they're actually fictional in some parts.
I'm an insurance broker and I was actually contacted by Moore's staff to consult on Sicko after I had e-mailed him. I stopped helping after the second conference call with one of his researchers when I realized they weren't interested in telling the whole story, they just wanted to make controversy by telling only part of the story and letting viewers make assumptions that they were hearing everything so, I wanted no part of that and stopped helping them.
Fine.....excess, greed and "flawed" capitalism....excess is how much money Moore makes.....greed is the pictuce he's going to paint for you in his new movie and "flawed" capitalism, whether you realize it or not, you're criticizing capitalism when you say that.....it's not like there's such a thing as flawed and unflawed capitalism! You're saying that capitalism has flaws, that's criticism!
The question is do you even know what a documentary is? It's a genre' and a very wide one at that. There's no rule that says a documentry must be entirely factual or complete in all details so, that it's not misleading in any way. Here's a quote from wikipedia (the link for which follows below):
I've seen plenty of documentaries, there are a lot of different sub genre' now for them....look under "See Also" at the bottom of that wikipedia link. Oliver stones movies are considered documentaries....they're actually fictional in some parts.
I'm an insurance broker and I was actually contacted by Moore's staff to consult on Sicko after I had e-mailed him. I stopped helping after the second conference call with one of his researchers when I realized they weren't interested in telling the whole story, they just wanted to make controversy by telling only part of the story and letting viewers make assumptions that they were hearing everything so, I wanted no part of that and stopped helping them.
Fine.....excess, greed and "flawed" capitalism....excess is how much money Moore makes.....greed is the pictuce he's going to paint for you in his new movie and "flawed" capitalism, whether you realize it or not, you're criticizing capitalism when you say that.....it's not like there's such a thing as flawed and unflawed capitalism! You're saying that capitalism has flaws, that's criticism!
Oliver Stone's movies arent considered documentaries!!!!!
"you're criticizing capitalism when you say that".... ??????? And criticism is bad because...?
If anyone on this board saw Fahrenheit 9/11 when it was first out, you'll remember the feeling of oppression and suppression we were living under at that time.
How awful that the states of education and curiosity and discourse are so wretched in this country that people have to learn basic information through pop culture movies.
If he omits details it is because he is trying to make a point.
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Where did I say that? and where did I say he made things up? I said he omits details! You make sense!
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Is Michael Moore good for America???
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