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Old 09-25-2009, 04:11 AM
 
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citizenkane2, is that video from a public school or privately made? There is a distinct difference between the two. If it was privately made which it appears to be since it has a professional quality it's going to fall into the same category as the Bush one posted from what appeared to be a church. Matter of fact it appears to be a political commercial. It may be disagreeable just as the Bush one may be for Obama supporters but it's not the same as it being done inside a public school.

It's not just the kids. Indoctrination for this guy's agenda is coming from adults too.


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Old 09-25-2009, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Europe
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AH Pamky...Being in the military myself u sign a contract to serve ur country so ur not forced to do anything u might not like it but u do it no body forces u to join the military. Unlike Hussein forcing his socialists agenda on America.
Hence " ". "Socialist Agenda"? A bit of hyperbole.

The Pariot Act was forced on Americans, taxes have been forced on you, children have to go to school...there are so many things you have been forced to do before Obama was elected.

What do you think of regulation of the banking system? Do you think banks should be more regulated in order to prevent another financial crisis like in 2007? Would that not be "socialist" from your perspective?

Let me tell you this from a European: This thing called "Socialism" is used by some people in the US to scare people that do NOT know what Socialism means.
I asked some people on CD and they had no clue.
Before Obama was elected, did you complain that Bush was a socialist because you had to pay for his government and especially for his military?

That Socialism propaganda is nonsense, and I am not going to comment on that anymore before people using this word actually know what that means. You can write me a mail, I do not want to contribute to this silly thread anymore.

Edit: What is the big difference between USA and Europe? What makes Europe socialist? Don't you think that there are differences between european countries?
Also, not every American wants to join the Army, a lot of people don't think that Iraq or Afghanistan are worth risking their lifes especially when Iraq was no threat no the US.
"Europe always comes to the USA to fight battles for them"?
I live in a peaceful country, we did not have any troubles for the last 60 years. I thank you for WWII but that is long time ago. BTW, aren't european soldiers helping you in Iraq and Afghanistan?

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Old 09-25-2009, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Out of curiosity, on what grounds would you sue?

Cease and desist.
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Old 09-25-2009, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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This is real creepy. I imagine this is the perfect scenario for indoctrination of the masses. You have indoctrination in the public school system via the liberal education system, indoctrination via the airwaves, the liberal media, and indoctrination via the liberal government and the Obama productions. The future possibilities are endless and .........
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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This thing called "Socialism" is used by some people in the US to scare people that do NOT know what Socialism means.
And it works beautifully.
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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This is real creepy. I imagine this is the perfect scenario for indoctrination of the masses. You have indoctrination in the public school system via the liberal education system, indoctrination via the airwaves, the liberal media, and indoctrination via the liberal government and the Obama productions. The future possibilities are endless and .........
And funny how it works out. The people being most successfully "indoctrinated" -- I call it "duped" -- are those who watch or listen to the right wing entertainers posing as political commentators, primarily Beck and Linbaugh. Talk about indoctrinating the masses.....just another thing the right is so far superior at than the left is.

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Old 09-25-2009, 05:17 AM
 
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Also, not every American wants to join the Army,
I don't know if you have misunderstanding but the military here is voluntary. There's nothing requiring you to join any branch of the military. Everyone of those people in uniform voluntarily under their own free will walked into a recruiting office and signed on the dotted line. Granted there's a lot of incentives to do it such as getting a free education but no one is forced into it. I'm sure many of the complaints from military personnel have a legitimate basis but many of them have also signed up to take advantage of the incentives and are trying to get out of their end of the bargain such as active duty in a war zone. They should have considered that before signing the dotted line.
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Old 09-25-2009, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Europe
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I don't know if you have misunderstanding but the military here is voluntary. There's nothing requiring you to join any branch of the military. Everyone of those people in uniform voluntarily under their own free will walked into a recruiting office and signed on the dotted line. Granted there's a lot of incentives to do it such as getting a free education but no one is forced into it. I'm sure many of the complaints from military personnel have a legitimate basis but many of them have also signed up to take advantage of the incentives and are trying to get out of their end of the bargain such as active duty in a war zone. They should have considered that before signing the dotted line.
AGAIN and for the last time: I put forced in "" because like you said it is voluntary today but the army is recruiting young men to "fight for their country" using incentives and then they have to be in Iraq, a country that did not attack the US, and risk their lifes for a stupid war.

Your quote is taking out of context. It was my reply to "Americans are proud to join the army". And I doubt that every American wants to join the army, and I doubt that those who do join the army are still excited about the army when they end as poor and neglected veterans. (Hint: Vietnam war).

But that is way offtopic and if you want to continue send me a mail.

I am not going to look into this thread again, because comparing a school teacher that teaches a stupid song to the Hitler Youth is ridiculous.
People should read what I posted about Hitler Youth.
I do think that kids shouldn't praise anyone,however, that hate towards those teachers is out of control. Someone posted the mailadress of them on CD. What is next? Threaten them? It is crazy.
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Old 09-25-2009, 06:41 AM
 
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I don't know if you have misunderstanding but the military here is voluntary. There's nothing requiring you to join any branch of the military. Everyone of those people in uniform voluntarily under their own free will walked into a recruiting office and signed on the dotted line. Granted there's a lot of incentives to do it such as getting a free education but no one is forced into it. I'm sure many of the complaints from military personnel have a legitimate basis but many of them have also signed up to take advantage of the incentives and are trying to get out of their end of the bargain such as active duty in a war zone. They should have considered that before signing the dotted line.

The draft argument is simply a red herring - it has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's repeated attempts to force grade school children into national service.

Such obscurations failed to save Obama's bills in Congress and will likewise fail to protect the type of propaganda we are seeing from the Dept of Education, the NEA and lone idiots in New Jersey.
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Old 09-25-2009, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Cease and desist.
Cease and desist is a court order issued to stop illegal activity. What illegal activity is going on?
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